Alain Perrin

lol, so why weren't they at Preston? Nothing to do with the fact that it was our closest away day?????

Without wishing to be rude but how the **** do you know that? If you're staying away then you've no right and no evidence to judge the quality of the football played. Pretty much the only games we've been below par in have been on Sky. Pity really because that would have been a great advert for quality football. You could have judged from the 30seconds on the Championship or listened to the radio. Entertaining or no that might be, that's about as much use as letting a blind man choose my wallpaper.... Our away form has been good but I suspect you are one of those 'stay aways' that was going to go to every away game (until that was the missus asked you to go shopping, your budgie died or the car needs fixing). These youngsters aren't failing but what do you care?

I was waiting for this b****** argument to be trotted out. Whilst I have no doubt that some were the "never set foot" types I suspect that many of the "never set foot types" had mysterious other engagements or other reasons for not going. The actual number? Who knows? At best a few hundred. If I could be arsed I'd look at the fervent stay away posters and see how many made the effort? (Was Alpine there? Yorkie?) More influential was that Reading is our closest league derby and, in part due to Saint's coastal location, for many fans (those that travel in from Basingstoke, Swindon, even London etc.) it was actually an easier journey. Personally I was back home by 6.10pm compared to my usual 7.15pm. "Can we play you every week?"

A very fair argument, until the pub gets bulldozed and a Tesco gets built in its place. Administration will make RL look like Mother Teresa.

You should buy yourself a bottle of this.... http://www.amazon.co.uk/CK-Obsession-100ml-EDP-Perfume/dp/B000IOSHTY I've read a lot of your posts but this one is keeerrrazzzzy. Do you seriously believe there are people paid to disagree with your opinions on here? Not only is that lunacy, it is disrespectful. Effectively what you are saying is if I disagrees with your opinion I must be a plant/PR man etc. No, I just think you are talking ****! For what purpose? As your post proves this forum exists for a few hardcore Saints obsessives, they aren't going to change their minds (although they'll probably shut up if we start winning again). I've pretty consistently supported Lowe as I consider him the best option for Saints. If a better one comes along then I'll support them (but unlike you I want a viable alternative, not just cutting my legs off and then thinking about where I want to walk). Unlike a lot of the the anti Lowe chip on the shoulder gang, I supported Saints under Wilde MK1, Crouch et al. I don't care who the suit is, provided the football is good. Not that you'd know that by not going, but hey, your loss

You are entitled to your opinion and actions John Smith, and you are right that football has changed. But that is football, not just Saints. For that you should blame Rupert Murdoch, not Rupert Lowe (he is merely a bit player). I do think there are certain fans who'd raison d'etre seems to be to hate Lowe, rather than support Saints and those are fans I (as a loon that still goes) think are becoming irrelevant. We'll either sink or swim without them, so they might as well not be there. I've watched every home game and a few away games this season. I've enjoyed good (even great) football in almost every match. Sometimes, even many times, I've walked away disheartened because we lost through youth and inexperience. Yes I find it frustrating, but more because I think we are close to the real deal - a team made up of enthusiasm, not mercenaries. A team that can play football, real football, in a hoof and run league. .... And that is why I find stay away's who protest they won't return until Lowe goes annoying. Partly because (I believe) they're pushing us closer to administration over politics (politics that are irrelevant to the 11 players in red and white), and partly because it feels like they're killing that dream. I also think Lowe is a convenient excuse for a lot of fans. Fans where the real reason for non-attendance is poor results, money, kids, work or distance. For them a 'Lowe Boycott' is convenient and has a lot more street cred and that's just, well a bit sad. Not saying that's you, because regardless (until we're forced into administration anyway) it is their and your loss, not mine. And if you don't feel that loss, well you cease to be a fan of Southampton FC. ps. not wishing to be pedantic, but it's absolved, not absorbed

Excellent so you agree that it doesn't have to be a football man then? Hang on though, how will he know how to treat the "customers". Running a PLC where I have to answer to a bunch of reactionary tosspots (and I don't mean the share holders) takes someone who is single minded and arrogant. Ermmm, like the bloke we've got. Unless you want Leon Crouch who is single minded but hardly covered himself in glory in his recent stint did he (Dodd + Gorman, untruths about contract renegotiations etc.) Anyone who doesn't deliver instant success will soon become enemy number one. Try putting that in the advert and see any applications you get (oh and don't forget the salary is f'all)

I agree, the Tyro league is where real football is played. Eastleigh won't get a penny of my money until that scum of a chairman is gone. I will support them away from home though because I bleed erm, Eastleigh, I do.

I seem to remember JP saying on Radio Hampshire that we had 'optshuns' on all of them. It doesn't really matter either way - if say Beattie was out for a long stretch, likelihood is Sheff Utd would want their man back now (similar for Pearce if Reading start losing ) We aren't looking for promotion, this is a project that will take two or three years to bear fruit (that's if it ever does). In that 2-3 years there will be players coming in and players going out, loans and sales. We need to roll with the punches and hope the replacements turn out to be better.

Definitely not a 4-4-2. The only time it ever looks like that is when we kick off because the furthest forward midfielder (McGdrk) is waiting on the line to get forward.

LOL @ Chris. Your loss mate.

Only hearsay from a Stoke supporting mate. Probably no truth in it but he has no Lowe axe to grind in either direction.

Ouch, where did that sad obsessive rant come from? I can't find one post on here that suggests we are still paying Davies but I am happy for you to point it out to me. We took Pulis on because we got a better deal (bigger transfer fee on Davies) from Stoke because we took Pulis off their books. Even discounting Pulis' wages this still made sense. I forget though, in your Lowe obsessed world no one ever wants to leave and players play for free.

I agree Gordon, we'd be all better off if we all topped ourselves. Who's going first?

I agree. It is a disgrace Give me some journeymen any day of the week.

Ah yes, in the non-Lowe world injuries don't happen and we wouldn't have sold Andrew Davis (who is also injured - remind me how many times he has played for Stoke since we sold him?). That was a great bit of business.

To illustrate where the money was/is going I have heard the following: Stern John was on £17K a week of which S/land were paying part of his wages for year 1. I suspect we are now subsidising part of his wage at Bristol City to get the bulk of his wage off the books. That's 2000 season tickets....

I agree that no one can know the true figure. I do think there are many who use Lowe as a convenient excuse for nagging wife / credit crunch / young children etc. etc. In terms of true noble sacrifice I suspect we are talking 100's.

I don't know Duncan, so my impression is only through his postings on here and occasional Daily Echo comments. That said, that impression is that his problem with RL has become personal and, for me, that devalues anything he has to say. Personally I am neither pro-Lowe or anti-Lowe, just pro-Saints. I want us to do well and, if a better option than Lowe comes forward I will cling to it like Kate Winslett to a table leg. I do think RL is a divisive figure but I don't think the attendance cost of that devisiveness is that significant (100's not 1000's of fans) and, as the abortive chanting showed on Saturday, if Saints play well then the devisiveness is irrelevant. What I do know is that we are in the financial doo doo and any boardroom shuffling or managerial shuffling will cost cash we don't have. IMHO, the final hand has been dealt and we have to play it. Hopefully it is a good enough hand to avoid relegation and administration. We need the support of all fans, pro or anti, to avoid both and I think Duncan's call is unhelpful. That said he's entitled to his opinion as I am to disagree with it.

Ahem..... http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?p=106139#post106139

Several posters on here do the opposite. Who is employing them?

A nice censorial view of a nasty man. Ian Smith supported the rule of Rhodesia by the white minority (they numbered 6% which is the same percentage as Rupert Lowe has in his minority rule of Saints). Given the parallels with Lowe and Ian Smith surely you are on the wrong side.... There's also a nice quote about Ian Smith on Wikipedia. "Smith failed to take advantage of opportunities, and in so doing, he came to appear both intransigent and indecisive." That sums up the anti-Lowe/lose and get him out mob - all mouth, no alternatives.

Lazy journalism. Morgan is French. Arsene is French. QED he must be moving to Arsenal. Even the agent quote is a bit of a joke. It would have been more of a shocker had his agent dismissed rumours of a move, "I'm not interested in any more commission", said Richard des Voeux. When asked if Morgan was offered a £5m move to Arsenal, Richard des Voex said: "A January move is possible."' No ****!

To be honest, during the game I thought the support was superb. One of the best this season.

Ashamed to say I got into a slanging match with another fan after the Bristol City match. He called the players ****, I wanted to still encourage them. It made me think about who was right and I realised afterwards we both are. We're both fans. We both want Saints to do well (and are ****ed off when they don't). ...just the ways of showing it are different. Anyway to the person I told to "**** off and not bother coming" in Kingsland centre, I apologise. You're as much of a fan as I and are entitled to express your opinion in whatever way you want. (the apology doesn't stretch to the beardy bloke further to your right who complains from the first whistle to the last whenever there is a misplaced pass - there is a limit )