Alain Perrin

Disagree. Plan A still works against opposition that come and attack (Reading / Birmingham etc). Plan A doesn't work against teams that put 10 men behind the ball and lump it up to a big man. Problem is there are more of these teams in the Championship than not. This explains why our away form is much better than our home form - because teams have to attack us. Personally, I don't think we have the personnel for Plan B.

Oh... it's a joke - he's likening Poortvliet to Portvale, just like you can liken the posters name to Verbal.... well you get the idea. It shows what a difficult job Jan has at Saints. On one hand you say James is poor at RB (I agree), but in the same breath you say play experience as playing Kane Mclaggon instead of Smith (who you lambast as poor but who incidentally was responsible for the one solid chance we had). What more cover can you have for James? Surely 4-5-1 (packing the midfield) provides more cover than 4-4-2. I fail to see what switching to 4-4-2 (sorry 4-4-1) would have done to stem the tide. People seem to forget we played one of the strongest teams in the UK (World) and did so for 2/3rds of the match with 10 men. I am not trying to pretend we were great, clearly we were poor, but hindsight is a wonderful thing and it is easy to be an armchair manager.

would be good for us. Solid for us in his previous stint. I seem to remember 'Jack Cork style hysteria' when we failed to renew his loan.

You're weird!

doubt he will - he's keeping a (relatively) low profile this time around.

Firstly it was p**s off, not f*** off. A small but semantic difference. Secondly it was prefixed by "in the nicest possible way, please". Thirdly it was suffixed by a smiley. Forthly it wasn't intended to cause offence (sorry to Mr X if it did). To be honest I can't be arsed to accept your challenge. I've no doubt that your posts are impeccably polite, tolerant of others, always on topic and never intend to cause offence.... You've kind of proved my point about this forum though, 30+ responses and very few related to the question posed. Until we stop arguing about the problem and start looking for a solution, this club will carry on destroying itself - in the boardroom and in the fan base. To be honest the only place people are trying to fix the club is on the pitch, with meagre resources but (usually) lots of effort. It's not working, but at least they're not sitting on their arses being pedantic arguing about "what's the point in playing if we've loaned out player X" or "how dare RL come and talk to Jan on the pitch before the game etc." I'm still waiting for a constructive response to my original post. In the spirit of New Year and all that, why not try and answer it as the question intended?

Oh I can handle alternative opinions Alpine, otherwise I wouldn't post on here (BTW, the irony from someone whose ilk jump on any alternative opinion by accusing them of being a PR Plant is so thick I'm choking) . What I can't handle is the inability to answer a simple question and instead respond with some Lowe out guff. I'll precis, but the question was - "who in the Man Utd reserves team could we loan / would they loan us?" Acceptable answers would be: 1) A name (Jonny Evans for example, then ensuing debate as to various allegations etc.). 2) A comment that Man Utd won't be loaning out anyone else (then ensuing debate as to players they have / haven't loaned). 3) A comment that they won't loan to us for various reasons (because we're on a losing streak, formation etc.). Unacceptable answers are: 1) Errmm, see your posts. This forum is in danger of disappearing up its own Lowe obsessed arse. I'm not asking for us not to talk about Lowe, but fail to see why every thread should be about him.

Jack Cork's girlfriend lives in Watford.

In the nicest possible way, please **** off to one of the other threads with anti-lowe / pro-lowe or can't be arsed-Lowe sentiment. This was a genuine attempt to talk about..... football. Revolutionary concept I know, but let's see if we can make it work

To show Sir Alex that we'd be an ideal home for some of their youth/reserve players. Not sure who they've got available but we obviously need a CB and a Striker.... Anyone know of the options?

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Like the flood of fans that came rushing back last time he was ousted. I remember it well......

To be honest Dyer isn't going to say anything different and I wouldn't expect the club to either. You don't sign a new contract and say "I'm just doing this to get my next move / I've no better options", just as an employer wouldn't say "I'm just employing you so that I can sell you on for more money".

Sorry to bring a bit of logic to you muppets but it is obvious why we gave him a contract. Rupert quite clearly wanted to stop the "Why did we let Dyer go for free" threads that would have been posted by the same morons that see everything as a chance to knock the club. If you can't see that signing Dyer up to retain him as an asset, getting other clubs to pay those wages, possibly getting loan fees AND the chance to sell him at the end of it is good business, then you are naive. Personally I don't think he's good enough for Saints, but if we can get something for him rather than nothing then that has to be a good thing. ... But don't let that stop you exercising your Lowe Obsessed Hate-in.

I have little doubt that with NP at the helm we'd have been top two.

Yep. Rasiak, John, Schiederlin, Holmes, Delap, Higgy, K Jones, Niemi, Svensson Beattie Crouch All League 1 (or Championship standard for those signed when in the Premiership)..... not For every duffer there's a diamond. I don't see Saints as being any better or worse than any other club (I bet Everton really rate Beattie's purchase)

I think the OS are completely in the clear here. All it was doing was reporting the facts as it knew them (on a day when most probably not working). I don't know what happened but I guess the call went something like this: [Ring Ring] "Hello Jordan here, I won't be able to come to the game as I've had a car accident" "Are you okay?" "Yes, just cuts and bruises, the other guy is in hospital though" "Ok, see you" [sound of a phone being put down] "Oi John, mark Jordan down as not being able to play, he's bruised after a car accident" "No problem Steve, should I ring the hospitals/police in the area to find out more?" "Don't bother John, that would be a waste of time after all we are a football website. I'm sure the cyberwarriors won't spend time worrying about that....." ... not forgetting that someone lost their life and that makes every argument on here petty in comparison.

The two things are mutually exclusive though, only after survival can come the ambition. It is in Lowe's interest for Saints to do well (ego, financially, "I told you so" etc.) and he stands to gain most by getting us back to the Premiership. I have absolutely no problem with us getting rid of Lowe, but it needs to be done with a strategy and an alternative, not because he's not liked. My personal opinion is that the survival strategy is the only game in town at the moment and that getting rid of Lowe/JP now (at this stage in a crucial season) would hinder rather than help that. What no one knows (because there is so much spin/counter spin) is how ambitious Lowe is being in cutting the cloth? Say, for example, if he is aiming to break even in 1 year, rather than 3 years - if so, is he taking more risks with player quality etc. than we need to? Either way it is going to be a long hard season but I've seen promise in some of the performances this season, hopefully enough to enable us to stay up.

Or changing radio station? You don't know the facts. Pressing 'Next' on an Ipod in a cradle, same as changing a radio station. Composing a playlist or searching for a particular Abba track, dangerous.

Excellent! I think it is particularly creative the way that you've introduced mobile phones (note, something I didn't mention and abhor) into the equation to back up your strange stance. I assume that (if you drive) you've got a car without a heater, stereo, never eaten or drunk anything whilst driving and remain in a Zen like focus not ever being distracted by anything inside or out of your vehicle. Otherwise you are a hypocrite. When typing Fritzel I umm'd and ahh'd about Fritzel or Fritzl - I guess when dealing with a pedant like yourself I should use Google, but somehow for a paedophile, it didn't seem worth it. You comprehended, if not understood anyway.

Not fishing. In the land of the blind the one eyed man is king - and I don't see a viable alternative to Rupert Lowe. Whoever runs Saints has a difficult job to do. For example, we could retain Rasiak / John et al., play 442 and stay up by 9 points (remember, they were here last year) - then go into Administration and get relegated through a points deduction. We aren't relegated yet, we're not even close, there are 20 games to go. I hope we survive both on the pitch and off the pitch, and I think Lowe leaving makes both LESS likely. Doubtless it will be close though.

The irony is the problem isn't the club, its the fans. For example, if I got hit in the face with a football, breaking my nose and causing my male model career to stall, I could sue the club (where there's a blame there's a claim) for not warning me appropriately. The sign insulates against that. I agree it is ridiculous, but the blame lies with the litigious culture we live in, not the club.

You are a **** aren't you. How is changing your ipod / fiddling with your stereo / changing the aircon / eating a sandwich, the same as being multiple times over the drink drive limit? It isn't and never will be. If you can't differentiate between the two then you need to spend more time in the real world and less time in the cellar (after all Fritzel's crime is the same as Robertson's isn't it?)

Thanks for trying. There will always be people who find fault in what you are trying to do. My advice is keep your head down and steady the ship as best possible. Make the hard decisions and try to balance getting the books straight and staying in the Championship. Don't cut the cloth too tight. Alternatively leave and let the club sink without a viable alternative (ps. they'll still blame you for that too - basically you're ****ed either way)

Ignore the knobheads