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Fair enough. The point I'm trying to make is that there was more than one possible sporting sanction available. The fact that the EFL chose to only go with one of the options is missing my point, as some people seem to be suggesting they didn't have a choice in the first place... Anyway, will leave it there 👍🏻

I'm confused (easily done)... Why was it exclusively down to us to "offer" an alternative sporting sanction? What was stopping the EFL considering an alternative to outright expulsion themselves? I don't really have the appetite to go around this circle yet again, but I'm content with my point of view that the EFL could have decided that forfeiting the first leg 3-0 (for example) was a viable and proportionate alternative sporting sanction...

Ha... Gotta love the mainstream media taking an interest in our press conferences when it suits them...

Yep, there was zero "orchestration", based on the independent FA panel's conclusions. i.e. Completely the opposite of the prevailing media narrative over the last 5 months, and counting...

Whether they would have exercised bias or not (either consciously or subconsciously) is a moot point... The point is, if you have, say, 100 people to choose from, 99 of which have zero connection with the clubs involved, you don't choose the 1 person that does, no matter how tenous.

"Spying plan" 😂 #buffoon

As long as we use the 'Middlesborough' misspelling in the match day programme and on the big screens, then I'll be happy 😁

You and I will probably disagree on that until the end of time...

Not forgetting that for the 'Ipswich training at Eastleigh' case, Tonda didn't even request that we 'spy' on them, he just happened to be shown a video by someone who was there filming it. And in the Middlesborough (sic) situation, it was someone else that suggested they go up there, not Tonda. I think I'm correct in saying that, out of the 3 'spying' charges, Tonda only instigated one of them off his own back, i.e. Oxford? Hardly an orchestrated and sustained initiative. How many football managers can put their hands up and say they've never had sight of any 'shady' information during their career? Simple: none of them. Every manager will have been in the same position as Tonda found himself in at some point. We were just stupid enough not to work out that Middlesborough (sic) would be ready and waiting to capture our presence and take full advantage thereof... (Footnote for the forum thought police: No, I'm not condoning what we did, just highlighting that everyone probably does it, in some shape or form, and we were just stupid and or naive enough to get caught, and rightly punished for doing so, although disproportionately IMO)

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Northerners in 'thick as mince' shocker...