The Kraken

We also have a number of games that don't sell out. But I guess they don't count. Reading sell 99% of their capacity on average, but this is not evidence they need a bigger stadium. Saints sell 94% of their capacity on average, and this is evidence that they need a bigger stadium asap.

Reading's average attendance this season: 23,925. Capacity is 24,161. http://espnfc.com/stats/attendance?league=eng.1&cc=5739 Sounds like they're really struggling. Their percentage of capacity sold per game is much higher than ours.

How many times have Reading sold out this season compared to us?

Hallelujah. Probably not "soon" at all then. In fact, if its 18 months, that'll be 2.5 years from your original assertion that it would be "soon"; and that's just for a planning application. And yet you used to consistently disagree with myself and others who previously said we wouldn't start any building works within the first 2 or 3 years of a return to the Premier League. Turns out you now think that we will possibly do exactly that. Who would've thought?

Can you put a date on it? "Soon" is, as you've proved, no indication whatsoever. You say you won't rule out "relatively soon", and Cortese blah blah blah. What timescale are we talking here? By 2013? By 2014? By 2015? Its not difficult to give a hunch, is it? I reckon not in 2013 or 2014. That's a complete guess; which apparently you disagree with. You just don't seem to have an answer yourself, other than that mine will be wrong.

Answer the question please, and then I'll answer yours.

For once, why not definitively suggest something you believe will happen instead of the ridiculous charade you put on to try so hard (and fail so spectactularly) in being wrong about things. "It'll happen soon, but it could be 5 or 10 years". Just have a bit of courage and say when you think it'll be. You didn't mention 2015 apart from the rugby world cup; can we assume you think building works will be complete by 2015? Go on MLG; stick your neck out. I'll help you out; I don't think we'll start building anything in the next 2 seasons.

I would say that could maybe happen, perhaps. But we know that it won't happen in the summer of 2015; that pesky rugby world cup that we're hosting gets in the way.

Actually, it wasn't years. MLG said so himself. http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthrea...=expect+happen So, construction work starting in 2013 and progressing into 2014 was what he originally posted.

The Rugby World Cup was a major factor, apparently. Which we will be hosting.

It realy doesn't, you silly child.

The good old Newcastle comparison. :lol:

Our attendance so far this season is actually less than the season in which we finished rock bottom of the Premier League.

Can development of the surrounding area only be done with a stadium increase? Can it not be done independently, and therefore relatively cheaply increase the matchday revenues without building a big unproven white elephant? Have the club actually said they'll do it all together, rather than one bit at a time?

Yes, I have one. As others including some on this thread will testify to the authenticity of. No, I clearly will not be sharing publicly.

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/showthread.php?37346-St-Mary-s-What-we-might-expect-to-see-happen-(and-possibly-announced-soon)&highlight=expect+happen The amount of wrong and baseless speculation in that statement is a testament to the lad.

Please stop guessing about the Rodriguez transfer, and appreciate that some people know better than you do about it. It was a £7M deal, largely all up front.

Compared to the pursuit of Ramirez, a half-hearted approach. If we'd have really wanted him and rolled up the red carpet for him as we did with Ramirez (and paid the exorbitant wages and singing fee being demanded) then I think we definitely could have got him. As it was we were never truly in the running.

I think the club didn't prioritise spending big and getting in there early on a centre-back or two (and keeper) as they did on Ramirez and Rodriguez. IMO they weren't as prepared to spend such relative sums on a centre-back or keeper, and didn't prioritise a marquee signing in those positions. Hence with the window about to close sources who got our transfer dealings pretty much spot on labelled us as being in disarray and unsure of our targets, resulting in last minute lower price gambles on Yoshida and Boruc.

No-one on this thread mentioned it. Except you, of course. so I'm not sure why you're trying to put words in other people's mouths to try and make your point, you're having a faux argument with no-one in particular.

If you two trolls have nothing to add to the thread other than whiney sniping about the good old days, its probably best you stay out so it can keep on topic.

We didn't let him go because the management realised they'd misjudged the Rodriguez signing. Lambert was primed for a move away, you're simply wrong about this.

Who has said this? Simply that we didn't spend as much on key areas the manager identified at the start of the summer as we did on areas the manager barely mentioned. You're the only one in this thread bringing up the assumption that there was a finite pot of money to spend.

I know because I look at the fact that we said we needed 1 or 2 CBs at the start of the summer, we just about got 1 and we spent relatively little on him compared to other outgoings. We prioritised other areas for spending big, and getting in there early and following all the way through for players we really wanted (Ramirez and Rodriguez).