The Kraken

Whoa there, clime down from that high horse. The same outcome of settling immediately before the court case. Blimey, emotions run high when defending the club it seems.

Amen to that.

Indeed. It certainly doesn't look good from the outside. And only an imbecile would argue that settling out of court is a better option that not facing legal action in the first case. On multiple occasions. With the same outcome.

Sounds like he'd get on well with MLG.

Ah yes, Illingsworthgate. Whatever people think of Nick (and the opinions are wide and often harsh) he got banned from owning a season ticket because of comments written on a website which were non-libellous and based in opinion only. So much for free speech (but then the embarrassing climbdown with The Sun didn't show too much good form in that area either).

Off the top of my head; corporate lounge refurb, training ground (maybe? can't recall exactly), this. Those were the ones that I can recall were published anyway. And the Adkins case still ongoing, of course.

Do you really imagine we didn't utilise any lawyers in the run-up to this case?

Your aim should be to get some new "material". This is just a tired and lazy effort at trolling.

It may well be uncommon, and call me old fashioned if you will, but I'd rather the club didn't act in a way that necessitated multiple out of court settlements and/or legal actions against it.

I see. So you were comparing £20M Oscar to Ramirez then? Fair enough.

Apart from Barry Sanchez I don't think many others are "writing him off" either.

I was comparing Hazard to your mention of Oscar; you made the Ramirez connection, not me. The point being; some players adapt to the Premier League very well right from the start (from Hazard, to £10M Coutinho, to £2M Michu). Some players take time to settle. Some players don't live up to their expectations at all. We'll see which one Ramirez is.

Supreme logic from Art yet again.

His team-mate, 22 year old Eden Hazard, seemed to fare a bit better, being nominated by his peers for the player of the year and young player of the year in his debut season here. Maybe some players are much more of a success than others? Just saying.

Their left back looked alright at times. Quite attacking minded; not sure how great he was in defence, mind. The lad McManaman has a lot of promise. Not sure if there's much else I'd be inclined to go for. Although I'm not sure what's happened to Ali el Habsi, he was utter quality last season.

We're safe anyway, we're drawing with Sunderland and beating Stoke.

It'll be just like Wigan to go to Arsenal and win. They did it last season. Not over yet, I feel. Wigan fans are dreadful.

Come on Nathan, you thieving little c*nt; knock one in.

Swansea have been utterly sh*te.

Does it? I hope we stay up, but if we do go down the pros of Championship football would outweigh much of the disappointment of relegation for me. We've been really impressive to watch at times this season, but I can't say I've thoroughly enjoyed going to games much more than last year. Making up the numbers in the Premier League or competing in the Championship? Not much in it for me.

I'd have been delighted if Ramirez had gotten anywhere near the levels that Silva and Mata reached in their first seasons here. Silva scored 6 goals and made 15 assists in his first season, 2010-11. He also earned three consecutive Manchester City Player of the Month awards from October to December 2010. Mata scored 12 goals with 20 assists in his first season 2011-12. By contrast, ramirez has 5 goals and 2 assists. Sorry, but there's no comparison for me. Silva and Mata have settled and progressed onwards from that point too, but I can't agree they needed a season to adjust. And like I say, if Ramirez had hit those sorts of numbers all round this would be an entirely different discussion.

Get our money back, play Lallana in the number 10 position, spend the money on a decent winger like Coutinho.

Talk of anything next season, let alone Champions League nonsense, is irresponsible. Get this job done first, then you can start "aiming for the stars" or other such platitudes.

Danny Fox.