The Kraken

That could certainly be true.

As aintforever suggested; have non-alcohol zones next to the away fans if that's going to be a genuine concern.

You can never eliminate risk. There is risk inherent in everything. You can't go taking all coins off match going punters, for instance, just in case they start chucking them at the opposition. I just think there's a possibility of trying different measures out. If our fans decide to act like complete dinlos, then abolish it and say "well we gave you the opportunity, you blew it". I think its worth a try, at the very least.

Could you not read it DellDays? The same law applies for both, hence the comparison. You're the one championing that law being in place, not I.

Indeed. If throwing glasses is truly the fear, then the blocks next to away fans are alchohol free; there we go, problem solved.

Yes I am comparing it. Because its exactly the same law. Exactly the same one, for clubs from the Premier League down to the local leagues. It shows how rigid and inflexible the law is. I'd be the first to agree that allowing booze in a game against Pompey at St. Mary's would probably not be a great idea. I already agree with the concept of closing pubs beforehand, of having the bubble in place. But I also think its a complete nonsense to have such a rigid law in place covering all. In the exec boxes, for instance, which are nowhere near the away fans in most cases. In the corporate lounges too, its a law that makes little sense to me.

Munich; home of Oktoberfest and excessive drinking.....

Answer me this one. You don't think its a good idea for top leagues to allow booze. Fair enough, we'll move on. Last spring/summer I went a couple of times to watch my mate play footy for Romsey Town. On one occasion a few of us went, and it was a glorious sunny day. At half time we bought ourselves a pint from the club bar, and we wanted to buy another afterwards to take out and watch the game. We weren't allowed to do this, due to the alcohol regulations. We couldn't sit at the bunch of picnic tables outside the front of the bar, we would have to have stayed in the clubhouse. Now, does that really make much sense to you? Do you really believe there is no way that regulations could/should be relaxed on a game by game basis, and perhaps show a little common sense here or there?

I don't agree. And I've lived in Germany, so I've got a decent basis for comparison.

Well I'm sorry but I don't agree. Apart from the part about the FA not allowing it, they're a bunch of backwards old farts so anything changing for the good is thoroughly unlikely.

You've already said you don't want the law changed. That's not a debate or a chance to see if it works. You've made your mind up. I'm saying, give it a try. If it doesn't work, change it back. I don't like having my freedoms pushed on me by a regulation-happy nation. I'm intelligent enough to not make an arse of myself and abuse a downgrading of regulations to make match going a bit less animalistic, and respectful of the customer. And I think, as stupid as some of our fanbase our, they deserve a chance to show that football fans are not the same demographic as in the 80s, and that we can move on and have some decent rules as they already do in beer loving countries such as Germany where the fan experience is deemed as among the best in the workd right now.

Seriously, why? People can have as much as they want pre-match, and do. They can neck pints at half time, and do. I'm not getting why this would be so much worse. In all likelihood what will happen is less of a rush to get down at half time, and people not necking their pints but drinking them over a longer period. I'm not seeing where the huge extra problems will come.

On what? This is making no sense. What would be so, so much worse than the situation allows for now?

Why are you trying to impose your own beliefs and preferences on others? Not everyone (thankfully) thinks the same way as you.

Why extra crowd trouble? What would be the cause? Alcohol is already available for sale in pubs before the game, its already available in the ground before the game and throughout. You're not explaining this; what would be the trigger point? If people want to get ****ed, they'll likely have done that already before the game. And there are already rules to eject those who are too intoxicated; that would continue. I find it massively close minded by those who have their own preconceived notions of others and want laws enacted because of it. And your whole "if you can't go without a drink for 45 minutes" logic is a complete nonsense; its like saying rugby should ban booze during the game because its really sad if the punters there can't go without a drink. Serious people within football think this is a realistic proposition, are open minded, and really that society has moved on in the last few years. If it doesn't work then shame on us, and it gets repealed immediately. Quite why there's such a dedication to not even giving it a go is beyond me.

These are the same sorts of arguments that were previously made against pubs being allowed to open beyond 11pm. Thankfully the naysayers didn't get their way on that occasion and the archaic laws were changed.

Seriously; what is likely to happen that is so bad? What is the extra risk factor to allowing someone to have a beer in their seat? What extra damage is likely?

I don't know it. What I'm not doing, like you, is refusing to even consider it. The latest campaign for it is being led by Ipswich's chief executive. I'd say he's got a fairly good idea of what the effect would be. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-suffolk-21046128 He's also suggesting that for certain games (eg for them the Norwich derby) then alcohol wouldn't be allowed. Similar to midday starts and such like. He also states that it would be regulated by the club; if there was indeed too much trouble they could just decide themselves to revert to the original solution. You see, he's open to change and wants to try new things. I think he has a point, and i think its worth trying.

How are they going to be "out of control" by having 1 extra beer at their seat?

And this will definitely happen, will it? If throwing objects at the opposition is such a problem why is it not so prevalent already? And how far is a bloody plastic cup going to travel anyway? CCTV inside the stadium means that anyone throwing things gets identified and banned for good. Happens all the time already with people who throw much worse things than a half-full plastic cup. Reading on here its like there's an army of undercover beer chuckers just waiting to get out if the law changes.

Yes, I understand how it doesn't fit in with the other made up assumptions of the terrible carnage that might happen if booze were allowed to be drunk in the stadium bowl.

Quite right. In fact, perhaps the club should consider changing their current rules and ban people from taking their bottles of Coke and Sprite up from the concourse, this is quite clearly a massive health and safety risk and a severe accident waiting to happen with these lax rules in place.

After hearing this devastating news I think alcohol should quite obviously be prohibited in the concourses, its the only way to prevent such disgusting scenes.

Why would you want to insert objects up a stranger's arse whilst watching the football? Sicko.

Never could in the first place...... In any case, due to popular opinion I have edited my original thread to remove the offending image.