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The economies of the nations I mentioned are so robust that they can easily absorb any defaults, especially when time frames are factored in. You seem to forget that West Germany absorbed East Germany. They are more narked that they are having to bail out Med' nations. In addition, using your flawed logic, if Spain and Portugal don't default and there is currently little to suggest they will, (although I except the possibility) the nations I mention will remain stable prosperous and growing and so the € would be nothing but a roaring success for them.

Some academic from some high falutin organisation, on R5 earlier said that the Libs had declared where 1/4 of their savings would come from, the tories 1/5 and the tory lites 1/8. All are guilty.

Yeah, Germany, France Holland & Benelux are in a terrible state. Oh.

The issue, Johnny, is that many sensible people, including some tories, understand what can and needs to be done but ALL of the main three parties, but the tories in particular, are scared of saying what needs to be done in case it costs them votes. The tories can't risk being seen as "nasty". Some academic from some high falutin organisation, on R5 earlier said that the Libs had declared where 1/4 of their savings would come from, the tories 1/5 and the torie lites 1/8. What sort of choice can people make when they won't tell them the truth? It's a sham campaigned designed not to frighten instead of treating us like grown ups and telling us the truth.

The one on Sky wasn't watched by many but with this weeks being on the Beeb millions are likely to tune in. It would appear that a large portion of the population are going to make their mind up based solely on what they see on the TV so could this week be the clincher?

I'd get rid of the quangos and non jobs in a heartbeat Johnny, as would the majority of frontline staff. As for the middle/senior managers, there are way, way, way too many of them and it will take someone with balls to cut where it's needed.

I think the majority understand that. I work closely with a local authority ACL and they've already stopped recruitment won't be filling vacancies and aren't renewing contracts when they expire in addition to making a few bodies redundant. There are still far too many non jobs earning way too much money though. They have an Equality and Diversity Officer earning close to £40k for doing nowt and are overloaded with admin and middle/senior managers.

This is true. Too much is wasted and there are far too many non-jobs.

After chatting with the Green candidate on Saturday I may well cast my vote for them. Clegg needs to decide who he is getting in bed with.

Get real. You're a not very bright neo-nazi white supremacist whose opinion changes with the editorials in a newspaper. You are incapable of debate as you do not posses the ability to come up with anything logical, sensible or rationale.

I'd agree with that.

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Yes. They have already said that they will withhold them.

The footballing authorities have already made it clear that they will hold back all payments due so to pay the footballing debts. Player sales will fund the £14mill owed to Baloo and the fees of the administrator, leaving next to nowt in the kitty.

FPTP doesn't necessarily mean that though and we aren't voting for a person we are voting for a party. If it were just a person that it would be akin to the US or French presidential model, which is based on a Republic.

Prize works in the title so :finga:

Damn, I meant price in the title.

Regardless on the pros/cons of a "balanced" House of Commons what price do you think that the Lib/Dems will demand from either Labour or the Tories? I'll go for a a referendum on PR within 12 months and for a PR system to be in place for the next general election and either Clegg as Foreign Sec' or Cable at Number 11.

I sure Avram will be able to procure blow jobs from cheap brasses across this great land of ours.

Amen to that!

Dune or Stanley as he was, has no issue telling you he went on NF rallies and I'm quite sure he confirms it in the BNP thread to save me searching others to find it. As for the white supremacy thing, ask him about his views on social Darwinism, again he tries to broach the subject in the BNP thread. Some of us have long memories regarding his previous posts under his old handle

No Stanley, of course I don't.

And going on NF rallies and spouting off how white people are superior makes you look what exactly?

The day after Wembley they will be forgotten, as is the way with the EPL/FA. The players will leave, Grant will leave and the players they scrap together will be relegated in front of crowds of 12,000. Lovely.

If Spain tailspins the way Greece has then many believe the Euro, in its current guise, will collapse. Out of it may rise a stronger northern based version which may yet prove to be the version worth joining.