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Well that's bloody impressive but you know the alternative seem to be of the same ilk who essentially held your grandfather back. So that's where my confusion lies. I mean, why would a in the grain labourite, come on to this board (obviously full of right-wingers) and say "I'll never vote Corbyn"? Who else is there for Labour? I mean, the rest essentially appear to be far too influenced by Tony Blair and down that route all we appear to have is a similar version of the elitist government we currently have. I mean, also, he was voted in by popular vote you know? I meant no insult to you but I've seen lots of right-wingers pretending to be from the left professing their former voting of the labour party but seem happy enough to run the party down in public...These right wingers don't seem to quick to do that.....Just look at the vote to remove £30 a week from disabled people already deemed unfit to work by their own agency; a fair few Tory MP's had already campaigned for disabled people's rights but the all felt obliged to vote in favour of this.....the scumbags but yet all it seems to me and, as you put it, us younger Labour supporters who have never had the chance to see an "actual" Labour party and even if we did, the older generation of the parties "supporters" seem to develop sharper memories and essentially publically oppose the very party they supposedly support. This doesn't happen for the other party. Also, this is interesting and yet very unsurprising....But hey, poor dodgy Dave... http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2016/apr/13/benefit-or-tax-evasion-row-over-the-tories-targets

See, that's where the article above is unbalanced...Explain to me, without the help of the right-wing media's obvious influence, how the Labour party are a shambles? They were a shambles when they were trying the ape the conservatives so what on earth do you want from the opposition. I mean, I love these "I'm a labour voter but I'll never vote for Corbyn" contributors....if that's what you think, why did you vote Labour in the first place?

I am against any kind of tax-fiddling from any side...As long as it takes away tax money that could be used for things like the NHS, I'm against it. I would also be against hurting the poorest in society whilst giving the richest tax breaks and such from...Both sides as it appears Blair brought in a fair few that seem to agree with that type of thing for Labour too. I just feel that the press have been, as of late, battering the labour party and often for no good reason so i see this as a bit of a change....obviously until it all goes to hell after the referendum (either way it goes).

No, we know exactly what it is...But we care a little bit more about robbing from the poor than tax dodging (although basically, it's the same thing)....you know, priorities and stuff but if it get's the presses attention about dodgy Dave (and trust me, there are a hell of a lot of people in this country that would call him worse) then carry on...I have stated about 3 times that I am fully aware that nothing illegal has gone on in this case, but carry on about "those stupid lefties" and I'll carry on about those heartless righties if you don't mind.

With something classy like this....jeesus, even Tory-lite Liz Kendall calls it nasty and obnoxious: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/tory-mp-sneers-low-achievers-7734629

In the sense that a fair few politicians are nasty, yes. Besides, whilst yep, Benji's right, the press is full of right-wing backed nonsense about workers and shirkers which the PM knows full well the general public lap up so really, should he have been surprised by the fuss made? no. Of course he shouldn't.

Lovely smear I see. All big claims, but really complete rubbish. Maggie backed Ian Douglas Smith, her Idol, Enoch Powell....well, it's far too easy really a bit like the big paedo that was Ted Heath....Come on, we can do this all day.

As opposed to: The first world war, Suez and countless other ones. Nope, there's only one nasty party in the UK and it's the ones who tried to use money for the poor to give tax breaks to the rich in the last budget...until they realised how politically suicidal it would have been. Besides, if the conservatives were in charge when the Iraq war (second as you know, you were there for the first) and afghan one (again, you were there for the first)...They'd have done exactly the same as the Labour party. In fact, the only UK PM to refuse to go to war with the US was a Labour one...Real Labour that is and not Tory-lite so you know, get a better argument to detract from the disgraceful bunch in power at the minute.

Or potentially every Jew, gay, disabled person in this country if the majority of the appeasing-wanting Conservatives had gotten their way. Thank goodness for the Labour Party-backed Winston Churchill eh? as opposed to the tories choice of Lord Halifax. In a word, a party created partly from Newpaper millionaires and imperialists has no room whatsoever to talk about the murder of innocent people right?

As opposed to what the Nasty Party is becoming again then? You couldn't make it up, to avert attention to the disgraceful things this government have attempted...and mostly failed, to do, lets all get on the band wagon of what happened 40 years ago eh? Shall we remember what also happened 20-30 years ago too?

That'll be brilliant; the man who thinks it's ok to use money ring fenced for the weakest in society as a cash cow for tax cuts for the richest. I really hope that happens. Pretty sure even Clegg said he was the only conservative he didn't want to do business with "an ingrained, indoctrinated Thatcherite" I think was the term he used.

It's a direct quote from Robert Preston actually, the man who recently interviewed him for ITV. I should point out that I see this as all very ironic and it proves that the British press (both sides it would seem because the Daily Mail are publishing this too) is like a snake; it's handy working for you but can turn easily. It's been doing conservative bidding quite a bit lately, what with Working tax credits, the disgusting removal of £30 a week from people already judged too sick to work by their own agency and a great many other abhorrent things so really, people can complain but the head of the DWP has walked away, the chancellor has been cutting worse than ever whilst still having a massive and growing deficit so who's to blame for it all? The man at the top and I hope after the 4 pitiful excuses he's made (surprising because I know there is nothing illegal about what he's done) suggests that he knows the vipers he's using to beat up on the weak and poor in society might very well have turned.

Yep, a friend of mine reposted that yesterday....but then again, he is involved in a hedge fund so it's not surprising; I mean, I could send you hundreds of stats about the % of benefit fraud but what would that prove? Besides, what's wrong with rich people being in politics....as long as they have a conscience.

That's far too simplistic and you know it.

Never! I mean, come on, we've had 5 years of "shirkers and strivers" and "benefit scum" (which, by the way, is mostly untrue) and the general public have swallowed it hook line and sinker from the conservative party's right-wing press...so yes, they probably are too thick to know the difference but it never stopped the media before did it? Plus, it's a technicality but Blairmore holdings was an "invitation to avoid UK tax" and if you couple that with Cameron not knowing what he has and hasn't got....it makes it an incredibly dodgy position for a PM to be in.

Again, does it matter? Blair did something similar at the beginning of his PM-ship, he got away with it because he was new. Cameron is a lame duck PM, he's already said he's going so the knives will be out. Plus, I think this is just a red herring for all the other rather nasty things this government are currently in the middle of. Best of luck to them with that small majority I say.

Again, but then Benn never went to the commons and complained about celebrities avoiding tax being criminally wrong did he? Also, I know what you are saying about the PM's wages (not that he obviously needs it) as in a rather b!tchy way, he fired the MD of the government organisation I work for, for being paid more than him. She was the first to go. I love how you put the word "hard left" in a negative context though, equality for all verses "greed is good" ermmm

To be fair, every man of the people has 200k hanging around under the sofa....this could run and run: http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/apr/09/david-cameron-questions-gift-mother

Shame they couldn't be that tough on Pompey though isn't it.

Might just have something to do with him being dodgy anyway. It's nice to see spin out of nothing being used against the PM as opposed to his right-wing media continually doing it to the Labour party leader. Either way, it is interesting to see the former press chief for Carlton TV making a balls up in front of the press. I mean, come on a line like "my tax issues are a private family matter" is only going to come back and haunt you if you open accuse so many well known people of tax-dodging.

On such a right-wing board? Never! I love the comments below though about Rees-Mogg as the potential next Tory leader. That would be brilliant.

He may not be gay but he's the worst chancellor we've had in a very long time. But I do believe he was also involved in Cameron's witch hunt of celeb tax evaders earlier so it is innappropriate also for him to come up with excuses like "it's a private family matter".

I'd like to know who you think are the "obvious scroungers". Are these the ones in the Daily Mail perchance, or some other target of the right wing media. Because, frankly, benefit fraud at it's current % is a virtual non-issue but it's used as a red herring for the very people in this article.

Seriously, what the heck?

Wouldn't YOU try to make political capital out of this one? Ah, the usual right-wing response "let's blame those nasty unions because 40-odd years ago they once did something they legally aren't allowed to do now but hey, they must be the bogeyman!"