Hockey_saint

Well this is happening over the course of the next term: http://www.church-poverty.org.uk/news/responsiblereformlaunch (some oddly wise words from Boris there...Notice the 20% how can anyone put a blanket removal of 20% on such a vast range of people?) plus this http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/mar/10/disaster-looms-people-severe-disabilities-independent-living-fund One thing's for sure, it's going to be a pretty poor 5 years for disabled people.

The lower echelons being the working class and those living in relative poverty; the single mothers, the disabled (I don't know many disabled people who would openly today say they voted Tory, I certainly wouldn't and most of the disabled people I know are worried sick their lives will now be made a living hell). I don't think the poor should have voted UKIP as I think UKIP actually had a wide appeal across the spectrum. I think the poor should have voted as they saw fit. I think most abstained. I mean, I live near the Avenue and I've not seen so many Tory posters in my lifetime. Could it be the sleepy tory factor? perhaps or the abstaining labourite? possible. I also think the Lib Dem supporters thought "sod it, if our party are going to act like the tories, we might as well vote for them instead." - I predicted the Lib slaughter (I did, it's in previous pages) I just didn't expect Labour to get it so badly. But to get back to your UKIP question, why should the poor vote UKIP? They could sure, but the EU allows for free movement and the job markets with it so I probably wouldn't but a lot will have (you know, since, surprisingly, the UKIP vote wasn't that much lower than the tories (actual voter numbers-wise).

Am I sounding like George Osborne on the Andrew Marr show?..."errmmmm....8 billion" Sour Mash, I would say an elitist society are those with an agenda to demonise the lower echelons of society...which the coaliton have done so well so far....whilst helping their rich banker mates. Hypochrondriac. I have said, I find the very fact that the tories got such a high percentage odd but I've speculated on it today. I think a few things did it. They circumvented UKIP by offering a referendum at the last minute and Labour's complete lack of even talking about the issue did for them.....And Ed being unelectable. I also think think that the media played a massive part; I just find it odd because some of those aimed for cuts, the long term unemployed, the sick...they MUST have voted tory so I can't completely explain but it's just shocking.

Isn't it 25% of the 65% that turned out?.......yep, that a vast majority. Yep Wes....massive chip, I would even consider voting for the tories if their party wasn't propagated by about 70% inherited wealth who wish to keep the status quo.

So there is absolutely, 100% no class element to the tory party then?....None at all? no public schoolboy's club? no let's get one over the oiks? Oh come on. Don't be deluded, there's class warfare everywhere. And their selective cuts wreak of an ideological basis so please....pull the other one.

Him and his wife are jointly millionaires thanks to the inherited wealth they gained from said ancestors......didn't stop them trying to claim a benefit for their child of which they've removed from a great many people though. I also wouldn't be too sure of the security of the NHS. Either way, I kinda prefer the politics of hope as opposed to hate. I assume you're not aware of how most of the rich got their money in this country then?....I'll give you a clue, it wasn't enterprise.

Ed Milliband was elected thanks to a major union vote so you could say we didnt. I knew he wouldn't get in but as I say, I believe in a non-elitist society so I avoided voting for Cameron's chums.

I know the spending for the BS reorganisation they implemented and the cost of all the outsourced private health care organisations vying for NHS contracts. And minorities.....well, that's a very leading question.

Nup, they raped and pillaged the world for hundreds of years and you know....new world, new systems of politics, I'd prefer a fresh approach as opposed to voting in people who essentially have been lording it over the common man for a very long time.

Yep, Ed was unelectable we all knew that. It's still perplexing though, still at least we don't have to pretend the Libs are trying to stop Cameron from savage cuts to the welfare state (why do the rich always see fit to hit the poor the hardest?) anymore.

Most of my family do also and they mention it all the time....it's a recurring theme. Also, did I not mention that so far the conservatives have not dismantled the NHS because of public opinion? Ah, selective reading again. I am also not bitter, more worried about the great many disabled people I know who's lives are going to be made a living hell thanks to this actually. But hey, you're a right wing voter so, of course you have to be completely right don't you. *To elaborate, my sister-in-law also works as a ward sister in a very intense London A&E and I know a great many junior doctors since I belong to a university of Southampton group who all say so please, if you're wife never mentions this to you...

The 57 protest votes against it's very inception should give you a clue, it's rapid privatisation as well over recent years, it's completely unneeded and very costly reorganising amongst many other things. The conservative party have always been against a national health care system and it survives because even the most batsheet crazy Tory hasn't dared sell it off but since under the coalition Cameron has done things Thatcher wouldn't attempt it will come as no surprise. Or maybe just ask someone who works in the NHS their view of what this government is doing to it and how long it has left the way it's going.

And so a lesson on how many people you can get to believe utter Bull...well, it turns out quite a few. I am very disappointed in my country right now. It's lost it's compassion and essentially it's heart...soon the NHS will probably be lost too but hey, if you're fed the same line for 5 years you get a lot of people who believe it. It's the out of work, poor, working poor, disabled and minorities I now feel sorry for. Don't get me wrong, Labour lost it by not listening to it's core voters but slaughtering the lib dems for essentially copying the tories and then giving them a massive pat on the back is very odd indeed.

I see what you did there!.....Naughty. I am just saying, as a compassionate person, I will not vote for a party who, whenever they need to make a cut, they take straight from the poorest in society.

Did I say it was exclusively a Tory thing? I just prefer my hypocritical MP's not to beat up on the poorest in our society because, well, they caused all this financial chaos didn't they?

Come on; I've seen Eastenders! just because they drop the charges for lack of evidence, it doesn't mean you're innocent! Although I like the fact that the Tory MP's bought things like moats and the labour ones were slightly work...shall we say....less arisrocratic choices.....

I think to most people with a heart that sounds pretty conclusive.......wait for the excuses....

I always thought it funny before the last election those people who voted Tory because they thought they'd be tough on the banks who got us into this mess.....Don't be silly!! They're all great mates! why would we give 11% pay rises to nurses when we could give 95% ones to their banking mates to spunk on westminister hookers and charlie?

Pretty sure the only ticket the tories (as usual) seem to be riding is an anti-Labour one....blah blah blah "we've got this (may be ******** but we'll flog it to death) note!!....You heard it here!!!...there's no money left!!!!!!".... Pity they ignored the Labour note in 1978 suggesting not to remove the garrison at Port Stanley wasn't it? Because war's cost a hell of a lot you know?....but hey, continue with more nonsense.....

Fair enough. Every group of people have a right to choose their own destiny but I just wish they'd see that independence within the EU is no independence at all.

I still find it brilliant that the Tories are fighting a campaign on something they signed up to in the first place. Sure, Labour let the A8 countries in but it was the Tories who took us into europe whilst Enoch Powell shouted "Vote labour" -- the irony.

A one party state was the first thing I thought when I saw that too.....Well done Scots, you hate the English so much you're prepared to throw away democracy and take part in a one party state. Anyhow, whaddya mean "who's been blaming Labour solely for the deficit and crash" The Conservatives and Lib Dems EVERY TIME they or their supporters make a soundbyte they do! jesus.

There is a lesson to be learn though; when the vast majority of the population are working class poor, you can't disproportionally punish them and award your rich, upper class chums as the Tories have been doing.

Don't tell the tories that! That'll just be false as they're absolutely certain it's totally Labour's fault...well...They must be, they've been banging on about it for four years.

Soooo according to the former governor of the bank of England..... (Another Tory myth blown apart) http://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/dec/29/labour-government-not-responsible-crash-bank-england-governor-mervyn-king?CMP=share_btn_fb