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I apparantly met him at Burnley away one year, but was only informed of this afterward. This post is irrelevant to the thread, but I feel is an interesting point.

What is anyone or anything going to gain from torture - the most inhumane of practices? And you are still letting them have the easy option of death. FWIW, prisons and sentencing need massive reforms in this country. At the moment prison does nothing, it is not an effective deterrent, and it is also provides us with too many repeat offenders. It is no conincidence that countries with lower levels of crime in Europe are those who offer more community based sentencing. Jail would then be more the most serious of criminals.

I would call the death penalty the soft option. The offender will never have to think about their crime, have any chance to understand what pain they have caused victim (or victim's family) and never have to suffer for their wrong.

But alpine's comments rely almost entirely on the basis he believes Lowe tells JP what team to pick. I agree we need some consistency, and I was also very pleased to see Cork at RB. Sadly with Lancashire's suspension he can't continue with Perry at CB, but maybe Wotton can play for one game. I was pleased to see BWP back as well, but had I said last week I wanted him in the side I would have been slated and told he was useless and lazy. Holmes isn't coming back for a while, and Schneiderlin is only just getting fit again. I can't see the fuss about Thomas. Useful cover but Jack Cork is best RB by some distance, and Lancashire will be good enough for this league- remember it took Alan Bennett a while to settle.

I think this is point that was raised by Robsk earlier. Britain is not "watered down" - we now have MORE laws, MORE erosion of civil liberties, MORE control by the state over our lives than this country has ever had - other than perhaps the erea of Robert Banks Jenkinson (Lord Liverpool). Current times are the exact opposite of what made Britain "Great".

Totally and utterly agreed. The rumours spread about Lowe picking the team are muck, which was what I was trying to point out. Alps believes it, as you can tell by his "questions" section. He also spreads most of these unfounded rumours from his Austrian hidey-hole.

No he didn't. Had that been the case one of his "questions" would be: Can we get our squad back to full fitness? Rather than the insulting "Despite the fact I have no evidence and sit thousands of miles from the game, will the chairman stop picking our team?" question he did include. Also, Wayne Thomas would not be an improvement on the starting XI, and where you'd actually play Euell I'm not sure. He'd be best suited to Lallana's position, so is alpine suggesting we drop Lallana now?

But what if he hadn't picked the team up until last night?

Do you know how much it costs to serve someone with the death penalty? You may be surprised at the cost of life incarceration vs death penalty.

You could come to the same conclusion from not being involved. I didn't say what my thoughts were on that. What I'm saying is someone with emotional involvement should not be involved in making a decision on the possible punishment, as they are more than likely going to over react.

What if Lowe picked last night's team?! Is that the argument in the trash can?

Thomas - injured. Euell - injured. Schneiderlin - injured. Holmes - injured. Killer - injured. They are not being picked because they are injured. Also, alps hasn't seem any of them play this season. What makes him think Wayne Thomas would be a great addition to the starting XI? I have no idea. He's talking his usual codswallop and trying to dress it up as being gracious.

If something had just happened to a family member, friend, then you would be in no position to make a rational judgement on punishment. You have to take this out of the equation when thinking about it.

Yes. the BBC always have all night US election coverage.

What arrogant nonsense.

I'm going with the old man.

If you are going to come and pick me up and drop me home in Bath, then yes! In all seriousness, I imagine quite a few Northern Saints will turn up without having booked tonight, just catch someone at the ticket offce/paid turnstile and I'm sure they'll have it.

Right, it's live on 5 Live Sports Extra which is available on Digital Radio, Digital TV and online.

Not that I think you're lying on purpose, but I find it very hard to believe our game is on ahead of, say, the Champions League, for example.

Would like to go, but amongst the extra speedway and the NFL on Sunday I can't afford the £60 train and £40 hotel on top of other spending. Oh well. Wish I could be there, but such is life.

Who is this player we don't have? Making things up again alps?

That team under Redc*nt had lost all confidence and looked abysmal. It needed to be broken up and allow us to have a fresh start. Why can't you accept that some times it is good for both parties to have a split? I think Oakley's career had gone stale, but I was pleased to see him revive it. What Burley did that January was exactly what he had to do, and the proof is that the team he built made on to make the play-offs 18 months later, and be 5/6 points off the top six when he left to manage Scotland. Those, sir, are facts.

He has a multi-room box? Can you ask him where he got it next time you go past, please?

Being a Saints fan I should be extra disappointed. Nonetheless, I think Shaun Payton has a tendency to under-utilise Deuce McAllister in favour of Reggie Bush, and so now he has no choice but to use Deuce. On Sunday I shall be shouting: "DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCEEEEEEEEE!"

Does he pay Council Tax on his box?