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Keep digging little fella (FWIW Spain has enjoyed an economic revival over the past few years but don’t let facts get in your way).

It’s quite simple Les. Some threaten violence on here; some don’t. I know it’s lost on you because you readily condone it.

Makes you value true ITKers like Cabbage Face even more.

Credible estimates suggest that the hit to the British economy from the referendum result has been about 2% of GDP -or £35bn. And Brexit hasn't even happened yet - never mind the type of disorderly exit that the swivels are now positively championing. Still as long as we get cheap oranges (and gravel), it'll all be fine

Spanish oranges

CF's got ITK creds to maintain. Its tough at the top.

Can still afford to moan after every goal they concede - his teammates are going to love him.

Afternoon Les Did you see the other FT article the other week? https://www.ft.com/content/e38d7e8c-1f06-11e9-b126-46fc3ad87c65 It cites the latest ONS figures on UK exports. Contrary to your brexitcentral article, it finds that the UK exports have become even more reliant on the EU vs. rest of the world since the referendum. Indeed the figures are pretty much in line with my earlier calculations (post 8172), mindful the dataset I was using was slightly different. You learn something on this forum everyday, don't you pal.

Our ability to strengthen the squad and build for the future is dependent on shifting deadwood like Hoedt. His performances matter nearly as much as any first-team player. You must have got confused with the defectors watch thread pal.

Let's be clear, Bootle is in a minority. Its also worth noting that notwithstanding a generous donation from the CEO of Next, nobody takes the Wolfson Prize seriously and nobody serious enters the competition. Its hardly suprising that its run out of a small centre-right thinktank. On a superficial level, there are obvious benefits to lower tariffs - the question is how large the benefits are and whether they offset the economic costs of leaving the EU. Apart from agreement on this banally basic point, Bootle's and Howe's analysis and assumptions are quite different -not surprisingly that is completely lost on thicker-than-a-butchers-turd GM who exudes all the understanding of a man who has made it at least halfway down a WTO, Roger Bootle or Liverpool model Wiki page When you take into account i) the average tariff applied on the types of goods that the UK imports (~3%) ii) the total share of households’ final consumption spending affected by these tariffs (just over a quarter) and iii) assume that tariffs are unlikely to be cut in goods where there is high UK production (as Bootle does), the gains from eliminating tariffs are minuscule. The IFS has crunched the numbers -Bootle hasn't- and estimates that tariff elimination would reduce prices only by at most 0.4%. This figure itself is conservative as it assumes that these savings are 100% passed through to consumers and ignores the potentially much higher increases in price that would accompany any likely depreciation in the pound in the wake of no deal. Bootle's piece is muddled in other places too - at times, embarrassingly so. To emphasise the fact that the rate of increase of many non-EU members exports into the Single Market is greater than the rate of increase of exports from most Single Market members to other Single Market members is the type of f**kwittery you would only expect here. To adapt an analogy made elsewhere: its like praising the height of a child compared to Peter Crouch. After all Peter Crouch hasn't grown in the last 6 years whereas the growth in height of a small child has been 100%. Who's taller? Needless to say, Minford is all on his own in the bat**** mental stakes. Its only when you get into the details of his methodology that you're able to understand this. That's too much to ask from bluffers like Martin Howe, Jacob Rees Moog, James Delingpole and the swivels on this thread.

Saying that, part of me hopes that Hoedt can pretend to be a CB long enough that we can scam Celta in the summer...

You know that someone has had a mare when you could have made a better case than them - despite holding diametrically opposing views. Thus in Delingpole's case, he could have pointed out that unilaterally cutting or eliminating tariffs doesn't necessarily reduce others incentives to do a FTA since improving access to markets in respect of non-tariff issues is bigger prize for prospective trade partners. Brillo's line of questioning was not particularly challenging. I suspect poor old GM is a fan of Delingpole -no doubt he shares his views on climate change- and is feeling a bit butt hurt that his boy took a beating

You're thicker than a butcher's turd. Martin Howe's a lawyer, not an economist and is simply rehearsing the same staid economic arguments for zero tariffs peddled by Patrick Minford and co. That work, its methodology and its claims, has been rubbished by every serious economist. Perhaps little Martin should stay in his own lane, though he should definitely avoid interviews with Adam Boulton and Sky News more generally Trust you to be attracted to utter mediocrity.

No doubt the same type of story that would omit the fact that the UK had no obligation to join or be part of an EU army. You’re a special little fella.

Agree.

Does he still s**t on Clyne?

Still don’t 100% know what happened for lambo’s 2nd pen at Millwall (where we came from behind to win 3- 2).

Are Goa still in it?

Loan or sale?

But according to reports, we’re not making a few quid so we can sign someone to push our AMs.

He rarely, if ever gets beaten on the ground which is the first job of a fullback.

Brilliant performance by James Delingpole on This Week, selling the benefits of no deal. Car crash TV at its finest.

I thought our willingness to sell Cedric is precisely because he's one of our few marketable assets This deal, if reported correctly, flies directly in the face of that logic.

Not really. Some people think a la Hoedt he has an attitude problem and isn't as good as he believes he is. But unlike Hoedt he has shown quality and does the basics very well. Ultimately there isn't much depth, quality or experience behind him - after Bertrand (injured) he is clearly our second best fullback. I suspect if we were really in a relegation dogfight, we would have thought twice. But for €1m -and an option to buy the upside for us is very limited.