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Nice video. Is that you pal? You seem remarkably spry: who's changing your overflowing turdpan now your polish carer has gone home? Whatever you're doing, it's working. Couldn't help but spot a follow-up video "it's good to be anti-Islam". Is there one, by any chance, on "the state of modern-day usury aka the jewish problem"? Always a pleasure Les. Shylock xxx

Spoiler alert: the study that kippers enthusiastically embraced but tragically misunderstood found that average wages in low or semi-skilled jobs fell by about a penny an hour since 2004 (assuming average wages of around £8 per hour). What did you make of the link I sent on NHS waiting times? Fill your boots with your ground-based evidence aka prejudice and preconception. Scapegoating is as old as time. When you have some real evidence, come back and we can have a chat. But I think you've taken things as you can pal.

After threatening to rearrange my face, right Les

He has unfinished business at Real Madrid.

You know you're debating with a complete amateur when they fall for a variant of lump of labour fallacy - check it up, little fella. Still no actual empirical evidence, then. What do you make of the BoE work (Nickell and Saleheen, 2015) on the impact of EU migration on wages that leavers from Iain Duncan Smith through Gisela Stuart to Boris Johnson approvingly cited during the referendum campaign? Game-changing stuff, right pal? Ground-based evidence - is that a euphemism for an old wives tale, pub-bore anecdote pal? Again where is the evidence that EU migration has caused these outcomes? On increaed A&E waiting times, you might want to refer to a study by Oxford academics (looking at both EU and non-EU migration) who find no significant effects on the whole. In those limited cases where there are short-term disruptions, more effective NHS planning can play a role -rather than throwing the baby out with the bathwater. https://www.nuffield.ox.ac.uk/economics/papers/2015/giunt_nic_silva2015.pdf EU freedom of movement has never been unlimited or unconditional. While EU citizens are initially allowed to live in any member state, after three months they must prove that they are working (employed or self-employed), a registered student or have "sufficient resources" (savings or a pension) to support themselves and not be "a burden on the benefits system". Shame successive UK governments have never really enforced these conditions. One might say that the UK's opportunity set is larger than you claim

You know you're debating with a complete amateur when they fall for a variant of lump of labour fallacy - check it up, little fella. Still no actual empirical evidence, then. What do you make of the BoE work (Nickell and Saleheen, 2015) on the impact of EU migration on wages that leavers from Iain Duncan Smith through Gisela Stuart to Boris Johnson approvingly cited during the referendum campaign? Game-changing stuff, right pal? And by the way, EU freedom of movement has never been unlimited or unconditional. While EU citizens are initially allowed to live in any member state, after three months they must prove that they are working (employed or self-employed), a registered student or have "sufficient resources" (savings or a pension) to support themselves and not be "a burden on the benefits system". Shame successive UK governments have never really enforced these conditions. One might say that the UK's opportunity set is larger than you make out

To repeat, where is evidence that EU migrants have pushed down wages in any meaningful way? Or is that just another inbred kipper article of faith? I take it you understand that people dont always act or vote on complete information? No it's not only French high earners - EU migrants as a whole are healthier and younger than the UK population so do not use public services as intensively. Either way, the fact that EU migrants put in more than they take out means that at the margins, there are more resources for public services for the rest of us as a result of EU migration. And what is the relevance of the 6 million figure: EU net migration probably accounts for ~20% of that figure (net migration also includes students), assuming your 6m figure is correct. So in effect you're admitting that vote leave had very little to do with the EU. Now I wouldn't want tar all leave voters with the brush of ignorance and not knowing how to tie their shoelaces but good to see some honesty coming from you. Finally it's characteristic of the ignorance and arrogance of closed-minded ideologues like yourself that you instinctively mock work that you haven't heard of. FWIW Dani Rodrik has written extensively about the public's anxieties and concerns with globalisation. In the same I way I approvingly cited Ivan Krastev's work earlier on in this thread, there is a debate to be had on how to manage globalisation in ways that work for everyone (alas you're too dim to realise that the market fundamentalist wing of the Brexiteer camp is all too happy to throw the likes of you under the bus of untrammelled globalisation). But that debate looks very different from the uninformed gibberish you put out pal.

Do explain how the EU is responsible for non-EU immigration or an ageing population; or why the UK has not enforced the powers it enjoys under the freedom of movement regime. Do provide evidence how EU immigration has fundamentally limited the UK's policy space or opportunity set (I guess you must be thinking of all those European doctors or nurses or the fact that EU migrants, on average, put more into public finances than they take out) instead of resorting to lazy and thick as pigs**t tropes about EU funded think tank journals. Not surprisingly you have little evidence: gut-based reactions from a mumbling moron that I should get out more don't count.

Good lad. In areas that are of greatest concern to British citizens -health, education, pensions, welfare, monetary policy, defence and border security- how does the EU encroach on UK sovereignty?

This is where MP earns his keep - perhaps he’s better at setting teams up to play against the big boys. That’s what he did successfully in Spain. Perhaps we’ll discover a different side to his management style and skills than has so far been on display.

Not a strong suit of yours as you’re thick as mince but care to provide evidence that the UK is governed by EU bureaucrats? Also care to provide evidence that the UK will simultaneously enjoy national sovereignty, democracy and integrated global trade once outside of the EU (guess you’ve never heard of Dani Rodrik’s work http://rodrik.typepad.com/dani_rodriks_weblog/2007/06/the-inescapable.html)?

Thanks - how is it calculated?

What does it show?

Where's everyone favourite "aim to be playing champions league in 5 years but important to be established as a top-six side over that period".

Does the Footballers Football Show still air? Uncle Les is always good value for a wise-old-man cameo on that.

Looks like John Misselbrook is on the wrong side, even among his own. So much for a bonfire of regulation, the precautionary principle and all those other supposedly protectionist measures by the EU. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/nov/09/uk-will-back-total-ban-on-bee-harming-pesticides-michael-gove-reveals

Will cheaper food necessarily accompany Brexit, Jihadi John? Is the UK prepared to unilaterally reduce trade barriers when doing so will reduce the bargaining power and leverage it has to make other countries open up their markets? Are you comfortable with wiping out significant sections of UK agriculture and manufacturing -and a large increase in wage inequality that would accompany full liberalisation? Of course, halfwits like yourself in your staggeringly shoddy and confused reasoning fail to understand that cheap labour (bad) and cheap imports (good) are simply two sides of the same coin. Are you ready to pay higher taxes to subsidise those who lose out from these processes because there like night follows day there will be a political backlash and adjustment costs? Do you realise that the gains from eliminating tariffs, while obviously beneficial in some respects, are generally overstated as producer price levels do not only reflect differences in tariff levels but also differences in tastes and quality? If not, you're not alone as fellow members of the death cult like Patrick Minford commit the same mistake. What about all the other impacts of Brexit that are likely to hurt the poor? In short, there are no cases where an industrialised country has ever implemented full unilateral liberalisation because its pure ivory towers fantasy. Talk about an elite indulging in wishful economic experiemnts. Still there'll be lots of jobs in tourism and food hospitality pal.

Long time, no hear, Jihadi John. The break doesn't appear to have done you any good, mind you. Still as clueless and zealous as ever. You do realise that Michael Gove and now Liam Fox have already publicly stated that the UK won't be accepting chlorinated chicken or scrapping EU food standards regulation, effectively kiboshing your cute little fantasy. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4865924/liam-fox-admits-defeat-in-his-row-with-michael-gove-over-chlorinated-chicken/ https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/07/fox-says-public-wont-accept-lower-food-standards-in-chlorinated-chicken-row Never mind that in critical areas such as services, the US is far more protectionist than the EU and the UK has zero hope of replacing high levels of access to the single market with similar generous access to the US market for services. All this underlines a deeper point that halfwits like yourself miss. Boil away the bluff and sweet-nothings, Ross message is ultimately a blunt warning: the UK has little freedom to choose or remake global regulation in its own image; rather to get a trade deal, the UK, as the junior partner, will have to take it up the sinkhole and accept others rules and regulations. Such is the joy of taking back control.

Closer to £8m pal.

There was paper talk linking Van Dijk to Spurs at the time, if that's worth anything.

So easily triggered. Now bore off or actually talk about the football, you human sedative.

Lonely man too right. Your bizarre obsession with me is growing by the day. But I don't think I can help you with your loneliness. Perhaps find someone of a similar age to you. https://www.ourtime.co.uk/unlogged/landing/bn-2/?mtcmk=866583&tckvs=171108100312515687&tckka=171108100312512378&ktid=6127&klid=7414&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIhPP2pc-u1wIVTDPTCh0ppAfLEAAYASAAEgLxGvD_BwE No need to thank me pal

Still not got over your Clasie love-affair?

#triggered

Could have still done a job for us - sitting alongside Romeu at DM, freeing Lemina to play further upfield.