rallyboy

I note selective reporting of how Portpin's bid was deemed unacceptable....but no reference to the Trust's bid being told likewise - the usual spin. Some good stuff for PES about how many people do regard the Trust effort as a good thing - just really badly-done, and poorly-hyped. And when their first budget showed them looking to borrow money against the future, and outbid other clubs for players, it wasn't a good start. Time for a clean break, put down the diseased beast, and adopt a fresh approach. The Football League may have accidentally created the Trust's biggest headache. Looking at the football creditors' deal, Chinny might take £2M a year for four years, but they can't carry that much forward, so he needs cash. The FL is trying to make him walk for a pittance, he won't. They are playing poker on the Trust's behalf - badly. I can see how the long term budget might work..... if they stuck to £2M wages and maintained League One status with 15K gates, but they must be about £6M short now, and an additional £1.5M a year short for heroic players' payoffs - and in trouble when the last PP is spent. As for leaving the future of your ground in the hands of property developers... The only way forward is with a strict budget, no overspending, guaranteed 15K gates, no outbidding clubs, no borrowing against the future, no being held hostage by a land owner. The Trust's bid fails on all of these counts - and that's why I'm out.

let's not forget that most pompey fans couldn't get onto News webchats for people with toast-related names asking funny questions about expensive new signings and doing liquidation puns about the progress of the Harbourdome and underwater shenanigans. So perhaps the few have been squeezed off their own forum too, meaning you lot are just arguing with yourselves, policed by their last fan - and that would be gold medal Nutjobbery! Either way the Trust is now about £20M short of a sustainable business plan, if I get bored in the morning I might pluck a new cashflow forecast out of thin air and call it a fact - might chuck a prossie gag in for good measure too, see how I feel. Night night.

it's okay, West Brom are paying most of his wages as he once drove up the M5 - and the shortfall, not that there is one, is being covered by a rich fan. In fact, pompey are improving terms for creditors by taking him on. They haven't broken any rules at all - Bradbury will actually increase the £12M generated every home game by the club. And those that were previously employed in his role until their sudden redundancies are just pleased that the club's world famous academy is thriving. It's a win-win!

Nige obviously left a legacy of radical development and an open mind on fresh ideas when he moved south. S****horpe manager and former Saints apprentice Alan Knill has adopted the pompey way for cost-cutting and low cost catering, and is taking it to a new level. I got hit by a squirrel. I went over the top of my bike and landed on my head, shoulder and neck," Knill told BBC Radio Humberside. I saw it run into the road but couldn't do anything about it and it just hit my wheel and stuck. UnAppy has missed a trick, Knill has combined the low cost travel with roadkill harvesting, he just needs to create a tent out of the fur and he can sign ANYONE without incurring any costs at all! And if that fails, he could just lie and say a rich fan has paid for it. Avram lubi zaszaleć na młodzieży w okienku transferowym.

let's not forget that the ridiculous PCC loan idea was sold on the 'fact' that every home game brings approx £12M into the city.....a claim that went unchallenged by people who regard themselves as intelligent. So just to support that fine theory, let's see what tonight delivers for the local economy... To hit target, an average family of four travelling from Bournemouth tonight will be required to spend about £8,000 in the city. As long as they fill their car up 30 times in Portsmouth, buy 1000 programmes, have 400 McDonalds, and stay at a local hotel for a fortnight, those figures stack up. the pompey theme park - the land that maths forgot - a world where fantasy and fact merge, and no one questions why the king is starkers and there's a herd of elephants in the room. (other than Mack!)

while I'm still not fully sure on the state of player contracts as the rules look vague, I was surprised that Appy took the public stance that he did, basically claiming that players were there now and that's the end of it. It sounded a bit tactless, he was implying that he'd conned some of them into signing, that he'd got one over on them. Also the original agreements were held up as contracts that needed both sides to agree to termination. Surely that means that they have not only taken some players hostage but that they are stuck with underperforming and injured players? Either way it looks messy and has upset other League One clubs that cannot match pompey's bizarre wage offers. What an odd way to run a business. And what has it come to when we rely on Bournemouth to dish out some justice. Though Lee Barnard has that Judge Dredd/Universal Soldier look to him...if he scores tonight he'll have to run halfway around the ground to find someone to upset - I hope he's not allergic to blue seating. But no one is interested in the JPT, I remember saying that to the other 55,000 Saints fans at Wembley.

just when you start to feel sorry for them the delusion kicks in again, every time the likes of Ho open their mouths a hilarious myth spills out... The most ludicrous one I heard was that we gave away 13,000 free tickets for every home game - not to be confused with the free tickets for asylum seekers and jobless deal we ran for a while... It's up there with all scummers leave after 75 mins and boo their own players at half time, that's when the ground isn't half empty like it was for Wigan and Man Utd. Why would anyone believe this stuff unless they are more dense than the fat in Appy's bath? So now we are told of £120K a week... It must be true as it came from the son of the kitman, who Ho meets at an underwater Saab dealership every few weeks to discuss CSI's sponsorship budget for the forthcoming financial year and council plans to gift them land to sell to Tesco for £20M. Living near the frontline I suffer these bizarre claims on a regular basis, fantasy dressed as fact, it makes you cringe and fear for the future. I was assured 18 months ago that Cortese had sold the club and had abandoned the project - the bloke swore that it was true, presumably as he will swear that he too heard that Ramirez is on £120K a week, which equals about £200K a week when skate-adjusted. Living to the east is like being a bloody missionary worker, I'm spending half the week just trying to spread education to the dim masses - it's a fricking nightmare. No, our admins are not the same, no you haven't been punished for the same crime twice, that cow is small, and no the refs haven't had an email to pick on you... Let's not forget that the Toyman is the King of the Ridiculous Myth - I believe very little that I hear, even about pompey, though his funniest ones were VERY funny! If there are facts to support then it's worth considering, but how can you reason with anyone who bases their irrational hatred on a story stolen from Millwall and West Ham's past? If the rivalry is all about a dock strike that never happened, anyone believing that is by now about fifth generation retarded. Why would you believe a story with more holes in it that Avram's tracksuit trousers? And why would you repeat it unless you wanted to look backward? As for the WW2 stuff, that was too fanciful even for those 12 year old Somerstown children who can neither rap, read, nor speak to girls without blushing. Only the thickest of the thick bought that rubbish. That offering today is just another £120K myth for the pile.

you got lucky, there was only one major development while you were away, then it all fizzled out a bit after that. If you want to save yourself time - the Trust agreed a deal of £7.25M for the ground, Chinny ripped up all security and has walked away smiling - we were sad to see him go. Tesco has offered £20M for the land but the Trust is more likely to redevelop the site themselves with the backing of supporters. They also increased their offer to CVA creditors, sorted the charities, and renegotiated with all the former players to pay £6M. They've already cleared that in cash from the new pledges that are now pouring in - their management structure and plans look really professional. Birch has overturned the points penalty and the FL have apologised. The fresh feel-good factor meant a sell out for the home win over Oldham but despite all the optimism, Appy is still reluctant to spend money and has been using youth team members instead of mercenaries, a policy that has been rewarded as many of them look really promising and a credit to the academy that is the envy of many top European clubs. And a local plumber has identified the source of fat and fixed it for £80 + vat. He still awaits payment....but they have 30 days, and the recent U-turn in policy and the refreshing winds of change blowing through the club would suggest that he will get paid earlier than that. Many of us are quite jealous but refuse to admit it. We had to put up with a boring game yesterday AND I washed my hands at half time and they felt a bit fatty afterwards.

I guess they'll raise their game for their new local rivals. I'm sure the Crawley game will be a heroic battling pluckfest against the odds - only ruined by the ref, or the pitch, or the league, or Portpin. How long before they fall out with The News if they continue to print the league table? Home loss, poor crowd, red card - unlucky.

Legally Birch can't just ignore Chinny, even if he doesn't believe a word the bloke says. Portpin has offered four times more than the Trust to a significant chunk of the creditors - to spurn that could lead to a legal sh!tstorm, and let's not forget that AA is waiting in the wings, desperate for Birch to make a mistake. Perhaps Trev is trying to help trigger the council loan by suggesting that Portpin's offer is not a valid commercial alternative? But the council also wants to be secured against the PP money and that's not possible, so that plan won't work. Chinny is also right to highlight that the current Trust plan means a withdrawal of the Golden Share and a loss of league football - as does challenging the penalty - it's a condition for league membership. Platini is presumbly writing to them regarding unpaid transfer fees as well, so they might need to challenege a European ban.... So it looks like Trev is giving the Trust a fortnight to get approval from all of the former heroes for a further massive shafting. I don't see them pulling off that stunt, perhaps their only option is to embrace the heroic property developer to get the ground, knock Chinny down £5M, and to match the £8.5M to the players - but to stagger the payments over about ten years. It must be getting to the point where the Trust is so stretched financially that it's too dangerous to take on - at some point the talking stops and you have to put cash on the table - let's see if Trev knows what a deadline is. Meanwhile UnAppy is sounding like a man who really doesn't know what his budget is, and whether he's overspent or not. To keep repeating that it might be the lowest budget in the division doesn't make it true. The ship has no rudder. In fact I'm not even sure that it has a hull. Just like the Prem days, that's not money coming into the coffers, it's money going through them. HALF the gate today should cover Trev's fees since the last home game.

Football history is littered with broken clubs who lost their grounds and never recovered. You would have to be desperate to even consider selling the last asset, on the offchance that the buyer has your best interests at heart. Let's just clarify - at the moment the ground is owned by Portsmouth FC under the management of Birch, but controlled by Chinny through his charges. This great new idea seems to be that the ground is taken out of the club, in the same way that the surrounding land was... IF this guy is able to outbid Chanrai, and that'll probably take about £8M, the land of fatpipes will then be owned by a property developer with little concern for the club/Trust etc - for the moment he just wants rent. The only winners in this scenario are Chinny, and possibly Robinson, if he can create a profit from the deal - though I think the cost will scupper his plans. Is there a bookies that offers odds on people going from hero to villain on the same day? The Trust should be wary of any bloke who has stood by quietly for two years watching the club spiral into the oblivion, and then stepped in at the last minute as a saviour...but I'm sure they know what they're doing so go on, welcome him with open arms and chant his name until the reality dawns. Don't come moaning to us when he rips you off, the potential for even further disaster is there for all to see.

and there was me thinking that actually taking out an ambitious loan was the risky bit... Fail to pay it back, lose your club. But from that quote it seems that the risk taker is always the loan shark, he's never quite sure whether he'll get his cash back - silly old loan shark! That must be why he's so poor. idiots.

so this fantastic manager is saving old carthorses from glue and dogfood factories and refusing to play the youth, just so he can pile more conference-rejects on the heap? And their one shining beacon of hope for the future, the boy Magri, is currently signing for QPR because he can't get a game at the Fatpipe Arena. I'm not sure that Appy has ANY sort of plan. By comparison, Cotterill and Lampitt are starting to look as legendary as serial relegation specialist Uncle Avram - all the heroes together. For more laughs they need to let the Trust take control with Chinny pulling the strings via his debt, and they must retain Appy - it would be a Nutjob win-win!

That's no longer fair. Wigan have a very small fanbase, can't compete in their own county, and are destined to forever live in the shadow of their neighbours - but the similarity ends there. They have a talented manager, an understanding of their level, a good relationship with local charities, and they pay their wagebill. There's a better comparison out there now. Got to a cup final, dropped from Prem to 3rd tier, went bankrupt, dissolved, weren't missed - quietly reformed in some distant football backwater by a handful of supporters. Gretna of the South.

Mike Handjob. Hey Penny, the recession is hitting hard, we need to help the city - shall we look into generating jobs across Hampshire by seeking funding from central government for regeneration schemes? Moneypenny. Or shall we share concerns with Cameron and Clegg about defence cuts that are creating hardship in our constituencies? Mike Handjob. Sounds a bit boring.... Moneypenny. Tell you what, let's just pointlessly waste a day writing another self-indulgent open letter to a stranger, in an effort to protect a serial tax-dodging money-laundering business that can be linked to local service cuts, ward closures and job losses - and we could eat sticky buns too! Mike Handjob. Yeah! We'll gloss over the links to organised crime and foreign criminals, I could have my picture in the paper, and you could too! People might vote for us, and we wouldn't even have to do any of the proper work that we are paid for. Moneypenny. Forget all of that MP drivel, let's just play sports fans for the day! I'll ask 'a friend' for confidential details of tax affairs, you buy the cakes, get lots, don't wipe your sticky fingers on anyone - and with your big ****gy mane you could also frighten common people in Essex by peering through a hedge at them. Five wasted hours and two dozen doughnuts later - Dear Mr Chinny, you've never heard of us and don't give a sh!t what we think, blah, blah, passionate fans, zzzzz, write off millions, self-promotion, blah, blah, please vote for us, blah, blah, yawn, etc....

You don't fool nutjobs, we know your game matey - see if you can spot the first move in Appy's campaign to hire a private jet for away games, maybe a rich fan could help?.... Kieran Djilali was sidelined at Carlisle by a back problem worsened by Pompey’s marathon nine-hour coach trip to Cumbria on Friday. Kieran had a spasm getting on the coach. Yeah, but that was no injury, it's just called reality setting in. Forget scoring a winner in the cup final or playing in the world cup, your career-defining destiny is a 4-2 defeat at Carlisle. Childhood dreams all but crushed by one pointless coach trip.

Though CVA1 has been lost at sea for years and is remembered fondly at annual memorial services, there is no death certificate - despite limbs and organs washing up regularly... Technically it still hasn't finished failing yet, even though Birch says it will fail, remember AA's vague deadlines about completion that suggest they haven't missed a payment yet? - hence the long drawn out penalty issue. Barring all creditors giving a thumbs up and the taxman embracing Andronikou, panic ye not, the penalty will be imposed. And we all know that the penalty suggested is very lenient for the offence committed. And St Chalet is right, despite him pulling all the strings since day one of his loan, Chanrai has been careful to keep a short distance between himself and most insolvency events, so technically he's as clean a new owner as the last few. (St C - yes I did pop into the main board but it was scary out there, not many have a sense of humour or a grasp of irony, so I scuttled back in here. ) Saw a Chelsea fan today and he said 'I feel sorry for pompey'..... 15 secs and some facts later, he no longer feels sorry for them. There is still a level of ignorance out there, some people buy the image of plucky pompey who have fought to pay off their debts but the nasty league has penalised them.

the supporters: loud, passionate and fanatically dedicated on the field, quietly professional and determined off it. What a ridiculous claim - they shouldn't be on the pitch, and they are neither professional nor determined off it. The Trust plans are the desperate scribblings of mad men who cannot see the problems. Do they honestly believe that Chanrai can't do better than £2M from them?? He could do better than that in liquidation tomorrow. And the Carlisle manager says he's astonished at how they strengthened by bringing in players beyond his budget, yet the few still cling onto this desperate plucky underdogs tag, battling to get results aginst all odds. B0ll0x. Just cut the hype and face reality. The Trust bid is nowhere near professional enough in funding nor style. Jotting figures on an envelope back is a great way to plan fixing your nan's fence, but that clumsy approach doesn't impress administrators. Birch has little choice, only one bid is 'professional', even though it's mainly fantasy. As for claiming to be bigger than Exeter, that's just laughable.

I've practiced waving my season ticket and it doesn't look that impressive, if I want to abuse fellow Saints fans should I take the whole package with the DVD and wave that? Despite it being the only badge of honour for diehards, the card is quite small, I'll be quite upset if the non-season ticket scum don't realise that I'm abusing them for no apparent reason. Can someone let me know the score as I'll be looking away from the pitch for most of the game, trying to spot people in Crouch shirts.

but remember that the JPT was a villainous trophy when we won it, now it's a heroic one again. Keep up. Any lack of ticket sales must be a pre-emptive strike on Chanrai before he takes control, it's a boycott I tell you! But I've not got time for all this, today is our day. I was there when Man Utd beat us seven years ago, I witnessed both relegations, and it's been a long and winding road to get top flight football back at SMS. Yes it did eventually turn into a fantastic adventure, one we will probably never see again, but as a whole it isn't a journey I'd want to repeat. So today is all about us! - it certainly isn't a day for worrying about rivals. As long as they don't commit any more crimes between now and teatime they could be at the other end of the country and two divisions away for all I care.

today would be a great day for Kanu's lawyer to bang on the door with a reminder. Hero for the cup final, villain for wanting his wages at admin1, hero for agreeing a longer contract, villain for being 50 years old, hero for deferring wages in admin2, villain for wanting it paid, hero for leaving, villain for wanting a compromise?? Is he currently a hero for keeping quiet during negotiations so that Birch can pretend there is no HUGE £3M-shaped cloud hanging over the future? And as for Colin Farmery, the poor bloke looks a little bit madder everytime he appears - many of the Trust people have put WAY too much time into taking this dead dog to Crufts, and it's starting to show. You can only drag the corpse around the parade ring so many times before bits start falling off. Their hearts might be in the right place, but their business brains are definitely not. The Trust should accept defeat for the sake of their own health and give the manky thing a dignifed burial - get a puppy and unleash it in the Wessex League. They need closure, and Birch is the man who could organise that.

Trev's choices - a. Accept the Trust bid, only on the understanding that you get the next admin job in six months time. b. Accept the Chinny bid and ignore the criticism - because you're more frightened of a loan shark than you are of six schoolboys who record feeble hip-hop in their nan's shed. c. Keep both parties interested...but fudge a decision pending further reports, thus dragging the whole process out to harvest more fees. I don't think either bid ticks all boxes, in fact the Trust don't even have a pencil, so I see Trev delaying things a....little....bit....longer, denying both parties some of the PPs and threatening the long term future of the club. Chanrai will then watch HIS money going to the administrators, the Trust will raise cash, but not as fast as it goes out the other end. And we all know that he has no intention of honouring the player agreements, whatever he says. Do the final PPs payout before the first player payment is due?... That could be judgement day. Whatever occurs I can't help remembering the guy who originally labelled us as nutjobs back in about January, he told us pompey were all sorted, their future looked bright, and it wasn't funny anymore. Despite all that, methinks that we might be able to squeeze one or two laughs out of what happens next....

as Derry points out, the other aspect of the charge over fatpipe park is that it matters not a jot whether money went into the club. A loan was agreed, the ground and assets were the security, the loan repayments failed, Chinny took control. A bit like his deal with CSI but the Russians were so criminal that even their assets were worthless. Remember how Ho tried to tell us the WRC rights were worth £20M-£30M when in fact they were worthless as CSI had defaulted? That's a downside of loan sharking - sometimes you just lose money and have to kill people instead. Whether that pompey-related loan actually existed at all is another matter, but no one has been brave enough to test that one in court. My understanding is that the charge over all things blue is legal - it has survived two admins so far. The few moaning about the validity of it is SO late that the bolting horse has since done a world tour, had grandkids, and is supping Pimms with Harry's dog in a tax haven for dodgy pets of a pensionable age.

this power struggle for control is nothing more than two tramps fighting over a lone ****y flip-flop - and it fits neither of them! And there was us thinking that the loan shark had waved goodbye to his money. And there was us thinking that the Trust could complete. Nutjobs not fooled by hype shock. The pompey story is now longer than War and Peace. In fact it is War and Peace, then War again. Heroes, villians, heroes again - tis getting complicated. Can someone research the pompey debacle timeline and update it so that Trousers can catch up before Christmas without missing any key events? Another major event while he's away and he's out of action until Easter.

here's the deal PES me old mucker - you stop your club from bringing the game into disrepute and raping local businesses, and we'll stop posting the same old twaddle about your club bringing the game into disrepute and raping local businesses. And you're right, some of us on here are getting fed up trying to explain to the slow of thinking how there's a difference between Man Utd's debt and pompey's, or how Southampton Leisure Holdings' admin was very different to a decade of insolvent trading funded by money-laundering and stolen pensioner's savings. Yes it is boring - we've been teaching a particularly-retarded Jack Russell a card trick for two fricking years, yet its still staring blankly at us! But it's not our fault - your clubs actions fuel this thread, the poor saga would've died ages ago if pompey had stopped cheating. So do explain to us simpletons who think that your football club is a disgrace to the game and the city - how can pompey and its fans ignore paying creditors but use money to strengthen the squad? And let's remember, the fans have now linked themselves with the club financially and must accept responsibility for what is done with their cash. When asked to clear debt there is a claim that they have no money, and can only offer a pittance. But the next minute you are outbdding teams in a higher division - and don't pretend that it hasn't happened, it is there for ALL to see - unless they have their Appy blue-tinted contacts in. Easy question, simple answer required..... And while you are doing this Q and A, please, please, please explain - your manager who paid for sex with crack whores behind a grubby skip in an industrial estate while wearing his club tracksuit, driven there at your expense, and who then led the club to a gloriously future-crippling relegation - what exactly is heroic about him? It's just that as a football fan I'd be annoyed if my season ticket money was given to prostitutes, but no one down that way seems to care about the use of their cash, or his hilarious managerial record. If you are struggling to answer these questions you might like to try the News website, for people who are properly-Portsea thick they offer an opinion service, just read the hype and you can then pretend you're informed. But be warned, if you then get in the ring with more experienced and sharper opponents who know the subject better than you, you'll be dumped on your ar$e faster than a gobby cagefighter at the AFC Bournemouth christmas do.