rallyboy

nothing with our legal system surprises me anymore and this is just another 'odd' incident in situations that follow them around. Anyone for a secret handshake or thick brown envelope? No Avram, not that type of handshake.

it's about time they were put back in their plaice.

let's not forget we were two divisions below them not long ago, they had billionaires and a new harbourdome on the way, we were penniless and facing closure. And we could be above them again in six weeks time. Whatever they say, and whenever it happens, that's gonna hurt.

if you sing loudly, get your mate to ring a bell, and stick some of your many fingers in your ears you can pretend that nothing is wrong! That's the way to view this great new dawn for plucky little post-debt pompey. Any of the few ready to recognise that the huge elephant is still sat in the corner, only now he's wearing a fur hat? I know there aren't many of them but I don't hear much protest. Are they all laundered and thieved out?

Eddie the Eagle was brave and showed incredible commitment, but I wouldn't trust him to mark a decent striker. Wherever possible I think I'd prefer my big strong defenders to come with technical skill as well - and don't start me on 'belief' or that 'little bit of magic in the final third'. I'm sure he was a great leader in Bournemouth's dodgy defence but as we well know, a few League One players who were much better than him last season will need to up their own games to survive at the higher level. So for me the jury is still out.

The legal problem is that they haven't defaulted on the CVA, they haven't even missed any payments - they've just delayed starting it, hoping it will go away. No rules broken! They just need to produce another false accountancy report that gives the impression they will start the CVA on time - or delay it again - that is all they have to do to satisfy the Football League and their flimsy charter. I'm sure the rest of football and even many of the few have no idea that pompey haven't even exited administration properly yet, that is the scandal. And the change of ownership means that Chanrai can now take money out even if the Russians can't - BigShadow may well have hit on a clever bit of the masterplan. At least these puppets seem to exist. I've heard of this type of plan before but in slightly different circumstances..... A Mr Gaydamak's accounts were frozen until he lost a massive court case so the only legal access to those frozen funds was if he was forced by a court ruling to pay out those damages - to a certain Mr Chanrai. And the amount payable and retrieved from those frozen bank accounts was very similar to Chanrai's immediate and alleged loan into pompey. Very clever, seemingly working against each other BUT in reality working together to get around legislation and move money you previously couldn't get at.... Chanrai is now a poor old creditor again, he's owed loan repayments, so by stepping aside six inches, the hard-done-by loan shark has just jumped himself back up the queue and is assured preferential treatment from the new company that he has personally placed in charge. He has controlled the club from the day he put in loans, he remained in full control throughout administration and is still in charge even though he doesn't even own the club - and in reality, he never has! The business owed him money, he took it over - reluctantly! Whatever we think of the way they do business down the road, Chanrai is a clever bloke and he's still pulling the strings.

I suggest SOS pompey don't disband completely, maybe just stand down for a few weeks and keep in touch. Probably not worth putting the banners in the loft, it could save getting the step ladder out in a month or so. Then again if they are happy, I guess this thread is done. yeah right! Let's see the accounts.

8K? - I think I'd have kept those figures quiet. So based on about 16K gates, a quick bit of rough maths would suggest their likely turnover from gate money and season tickets is going to work out at about £150K a week. Three of their players currently take half of that...... Ben Haim currently requires more than half of their season ticket income to cover his weekly wage - equivalent to Saints paying Forecast approx £85K a week, just to watch games. Any pompey fan who has renewed at £499 will be paying nearly £300 of that to Ben Haim. The TV money and sponsorship will finance most other areas of the club but the wages to income levels looks very fragile - with low gates they could be heading for another season of 90% of turnover going on wages - time for the Russians to splash the cash, just to stand still! Our income is likely to be approx 50% higher than theirs, so presuming we do okay and gates hold up, Cortese's business model looks a little more sturdy. I've been generous to them on the figures and tough on ours so the gulf could in reality be massive - like double the gate receipts. Feel free to correct me with your own calculations.

I'm surprised some didn't ask what electricity is. Anyway, the training ground owners are going to go spare when they hear that we've been developing their property! Doesn't beat that bloke the other day who seriously suggested that we give away 12,500 tickets for every home game. I'm starting to wonder if a significant number of the few are a little bit 'special'.......tis certainly a club for local people.

Wanted - over-the-hill footballers! If your career appears over, we can find you a final payday! - inflated contracts of two or even three years can be yours! Just go to Steve Cotterill's WeBuyAnyPlayer.com and you will be offered more cash than you are worth, it's as easy as taking money from stupid creditors and disabled children! Some deals are so lengthy you are likely to be retired before they finish coughing up cash, and remember, this money is totally clean by the time it gets to you whether through Image Rights or good old brown envelopes! There's none of that nasty arms dealing, limbless children or organised crime guilt with these wages! Perhaps your recent form hasnt really lived up to expectations, on your last legs? -maybe you're regarded as a failure at your current club? Well come on down to the Fratton Arena where they make the Portsea donkey sanctuary look like heartless ba$tards! No more abuse from your own fans, where you're going there's not enough of them to bother you! Get the sea air, double your wages, meet people with more digits than you thought possible - and if it all goes t1ts up, the football creditor rule will guarantee your pension fund is paid in full! So waste no time, contact Cotterill and Lampitt today - they will pay you whatever you fancy, just name your price, and they'll double it! They have a ludicrous wage offer with your name on it, and the good old signing on bung that's big enough to choke a horse. Just see what our customers say - I couldn't believe what they offered me, I only had to sit on the bench occasionally, and the cheques just kept coming every month. No one seemed bothered that I had been retired for two years, and I only went there in the first place to buy a practical joke for my mate. Antti N. The money is fantastic, or at least it will be when I see it. Tal BH I was at a low point, no one wanted me, and then this offer came out of the blue. I thought it was a wind-up at first - but here I am, living the dream, dressed as a footballer, they even let me run out with the proper players. Dave K. So don't delay, if you've been turned down by 91 football league clubs, remember that there's the last chance saloon where any players are welcomed and at crazy prices, top prices even paid for MOT failures! conditions. some of your pay may be stolen from local charities, you may have to await the outcome of court proceedings before getting fully paid, the taxman will despise you, you may be asked to take part in some football matches occasionally - and if you cross the owners they may shoot you in the face.

I fear that this is no fake but an original. No Saints fan could have replicated the style to that level, to use sentences that make this little sense could have wasted the joke, so I think this is genuine. Note the rant-like quality, giving the impression that the whole paragraph was muttered through two teeth beneath crossed eyes, the way the reader is torn between tenses like Dr Who - this has all the hallmarks of a Paulsgrove window cleaner, circa 2011. If it had originated from here there would be a reference to the bestest fans or plucky pompey, and maybe a suggestion to sign Berbatov. IMO, this is an original, and that makes it even funnier - though not as funny as the £24M debt, or the 'fact' that our fanbase is barely 6,000 when you take off the freebies and the 2,500 that the likes of Tranmere brought down.

Hilarious new myths currently being hyped up in Deluded Town - 1. Saints are £24M in debt. 2. The Liebherr family have abandoned us. 3. We give away 12,500 tickets for every home game - apparently all women and children get in free.... (Which is seriously going to annoy the woman I go with as it cost her about £375 last season.) And this little gem off The News site sums up the insane ideas being sold to anyone thick enough to buy them - I work in business your club is in debt, you have got to remember sunshine Pompey are a far more better business venture than your present owners your owners are not that rich ok pompey are a unique club buoyed on having the biggest support in the south and a far bigger catchment area ok just because you have a bigger stadium,you will not attract the players like pompey will etc,you have to realise we have very encouraging owners they were the ones that wanted to purchase Rangers, but they were far more rewarding in getting the sleeping giant of the south coast which was POTENTIAL. That needs more than a few commas to sort it out. And while new myths are generated every day to distract from the fragility of the few's current state, I still await the exact details of the mythical dock strike.

Cotterill's getting the paranoid excuses in early doors, apparently the fixtures are against them now. The Blues boss believes his team have been dealt a tough hand following the release of their fixtures for the 2011-12 Championship term yesterday. But he backed them to respond to a testing start to the new season. The man is an idiot.

FMPR - you quote wages paid by a club that has flirted with bankruptcy for five years and another that's sailing full steam ahead towards administration. I think Charlton have had long enough in the wilderness to realise that overpaying and losing money may well be connected. West Ham are starting to look like pompey when it comes to gambling the club future - the Nolan signing makes Lampitt look shrewd. So I would suggest that those figures are not paid by championship clubs run sensibly, which sadly are few and far between. £15K a week is reasonable for two or three of your best players perhaps - but it shouldn't be the base rate for the lowest paid, average squad players that no one else wants. Sonko was no bargain - and even he knows it.

Halford was on £15K, presumably all loanees were on about the same - massive wages sanctioned by Lampitt. I would estimate their starting XI last season was costing about £10M a year before tax and NI - lucky they didn't have a full squad! Shedding a few big earners but continuing to overpay those coming in will mean they need to sell approx 22,000 season tickets - to stand still. I see why they are keen to increase capacity. Luckily they have new owners to cover the shortfall, and add more loans to the business. How long before the CVA is delayed again? I'd be surprised if the creditors ever see a penny - and the football authorities will pretend it hasn't happened.

so to put it into context, Sonko, an underused and failed loanee brought in by Cotterill and Lampitt as a result of their suicidal, badly named, and blatantly flawed quality over quantity scheme, cost the equivalent of 1,500 season tickets at £500 each..... An amount so damaging to cashflow that it even shamed the man taking it. Did many Norwich or Swansea players earn that sort of wage? Chanrai must be livid at how they wasted money last season that he could have walked off with. Cotterill's management last season in the transfer market looks shockingly poor. So keep up the good work Steve, please build another squad like that one!

it's been a taxing time!! Very good. Then we had - Lampitt will be meeting with you all on Wednesday that's another thing they got right, that was their entire fanbase in one room. Plucky little few, bestest ever. Yeah - bestest at being deluded!

so Chanrai is back exactly where he was prior to administration - He's a loan shark who will take control of the business if his money isn't repaid. Why would stinking rich Russians not pay him off? a. They don't have much money. b. See a.

here's a new excuse for delays in getting things done, Mr C talking about his forthcoming 6-a-side US holiday, currently one game in 12 days - Cotterill said: ‘The reason it has taken so long to get out in the public domain is the person who organised the trip has been very ill. ‘But he has carried on and got it sorted. We were running out of time but he has got it sorted. ‘I’m thankful to him for doing that, despite being really ill. followed by the greatest truth he has come out with so far - and ‘I’m in their debt, really.' Yes you are Steve, and so many other people's too.

Pompey have delivered a ‘hands off’ warning over Steve Cotterill in the wake of intense talk over the manager’s future. The Blues insist they have not received an approach from Birmingham following speculation the midlanders were keen to take Cotterill to St Andrew’s. And chief executive David Lampitt vowed there were no plans for the 46-year-old to leave after another dramatic day at Fratton Park. Wow there, one moment.....so the only thing missing from this dramatic day was in fact....drama. The club insist that Birmingham hasn't made an approach, Birmingham don't even have him on their radar. So no club has attempted to speak to Cotterill. No one wants him. But Lampitt has issued a hands off warning to make sure that the bloke that no one else wants, goes nowhere....well done. This is like a really poor day at Max Clifford's office where blatant spin doesn't even have enough legs to create one plausible story. What next, Nugent told he has no pompey future, as he heads past jct 32 of the M6 at 100mph? Lampitt hits out at Ben Haim's relaxed attitude to wage collection? They do treat the few like idiots, and they can't all be that stupid.....

I can't see how riding bikes naked is going to discourage serial rapists - especially as most of the cyclists looked like pervy middle aged men. Though the one who was painted like a tiger was no angel, so he was gagging for it.

get in there Lampitt, this looks like a pompey type of signing - Everton could let Yakubu go for a fee of £2m. However, the player's wages of between £35,000 and £40,000 are the stumbling block Re Nugent, I could see him running down his contract as the club was heading for the rocks but things have changed, we're told there is a brave new era and an arena is around the corner.... Why would you not hold onto your top scorer if you have rich new owners?

the lure of Horton Heath could prove too much for Avram, he'd jump at the chance. He could be slipping his CV through their back door at this very moment.

if I hadn't seen them dodge these rules before I would assume that the mix of an embargo and the FL monitoring their spending would prevent them from outbidding richer clubs. But with the blatant cheating that accompanied the last embargo I fully expect them to ignore the latest court action, deny knowledge of the debt, run roughshod over the authorities and assemble yet another team they cannot afford to run. In fact their new owners have even more clout in certain circles than the previous ones, so the FL better watch their backs if they try and impose any sanctions at all on these fit and proper people. The authorities welcomed them to their league with open arms, so they can't moan if they find their family pets sawn in half on the living room carpet.

the Ben Haim problem isn't a new one, though it is a serious issue. The Russians bought the club with this ongoing so they should just pay him and move on. None of us on here did due diligence but we all knew he was unpaid, so if they say it's news to them they are idiots who have just set sail into a sea of sh1t - without a boat. Did Chanrai forget to mention the court cases and the CVA as well?