
Verbal
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I'm not talking about the Enlightenment at all, but theologians of the Middle Ages. If you want chapter and verse on this, read Larry Siedentop's 'Inventing the Individual: The Origins of Western Liberalism'. The Enlightenment, like the Renaissance, is much overrated.
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Britain is a profoundly Christian country, but God has little to do with it. Our beliefs in individualism - the primacy of the individual over other claims from family, clan, tribe, 'orders', etc - was promoted by Christian thinkers of the Middle Ages. This was a social revolution, because these other claims had dominated everyday life. So the beliefs in individual liberty, representative government, the moral equality of individuals - political values we grow up with - were first developed by theologians in the thirteenth and fourteenth centuries. This was possible despite the huge capacity for oppression by the Church. The reason why it was possible was simple: Christianity had become an incredibly diverse religion by the Middle Ages, with all kinds of competing ideas and beliefs - and this was especially true in Britain. But out of that mess came the core beliefs we have today. So Christian, yes - but not in the way Cameron babbles on about.
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It's nothing more than deja vu really. They went through exactly the same thing after Matt Busby. If history repeats itself, they'll have to get through another one or two managers (although probably not a relegation!) before they get back to challenging for the title.
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I'm not sure it's "apparent" - more of a fact. Aap3 is the joint-lowest shirt sponsor's deal in the Prem. Barely £1m pa. Anyone at the club trying to do a deal that's better than that is going to be aiming at the easiest target of all.
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That wasn't as bad as I was expecting.
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If only you had the ability to read a newspaper article in its entirety... Still, MH370 is bound to turn up any day on the tarmac at Diego Garcia. That makes perfect sense.
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Global warming really is happening... (well, duh!)
Verbal replied to 1976_Child's topic in The Lounge
St George is fooled by the long sentences. There is no reference to climate science or climate scientists in this. Nor is it about peer reviewed science as reported in climate journals. What it's saying is that while exaggerations and simplifications in the media and the green lobby may induce countries to get together to make treaties, there's little predictive evidence that it actually results in treaties that make meaningful change - or even in countries making much of an effort. So St George is either dissembling when he refers to 'peer reviewed' 'alarmist bibles' - they're clearly not the subject of this paper - or, more likely, articles like this are simply beyond his grasp. -
BBC - Trojan Horse: 25 schools probed over alleged takeover plot
Verbal replied to holepuncture's topic in The Lounge
Based on what? The Birmingham schools are in areas where there are strong Kashmiri populations which, because of the rural conservatism of their family backgrounds, have proved stronger recruiting grounds for Salafist extremism - although whether that actually means '25 schools' have been 'taken over' remains very much to be seen. In Tower Hamlets, the Asian population is predominantly Bangladeshi, which does not have a record of Salafist extremism. -
Non satis. The P should be capitalised as it's the start of a sentence, and there should be a full stop at the end of the sentence.
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All excellent choices. Are you sure you mean Kim Jong Ill, who is now (a) dead and (b) a waxwork? Or do you mean Kim Jong-un - the one who puts people out of their misery with a flamethrower, and therefore something of a risk around waxworked dead relatives?
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He was. The hijackers were also fighting someone I knew, Mo Amin, who died in the crash. So in the circumstances that was a pretty amazing water landing.
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Will do. Just send me your account number, sort code and password.
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I'd lay good money on Norwich being a Championship team next season.
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LIVE DEBATE: The EU - in or out - Clegg vs Farage
Verbal replied to Saint-Armstrong's topic in The Lounge
The 'natural party of government' has not won an outright majority at a general election in more than two decades. You have to go back to 1992. Most students at university today, for example, weren't even born then. -
You underestimate this guy. He's clever: He never did close the bracket. Spooky.
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You don't think he's a real bear, do you?
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Bertrand Russell couldn't unpick this logic.
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Quite so. That was extraordinary.
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Of course! Just as he was Tommac - also a flying ace.
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Are you sure your daily commute isn't to CCHQ? (Yes, the Tory dumb****s really call it that.) It is entirely consistent with a quality of governance so poor that it guarantees that policies designed to cost less, cost more. The special idiocy of this one is that having dumped almost the entire bill for Higher Education on students, this government now finds that the costs to the Treasury - and the taxpayer - are still higher than the loans/university grants regime it replaced. Genius.
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So let me get this straight. You two Chuckles are perfectly happy to make your hurtful insinuations against the McCanns, but you profess hurt feelings because one of you imagines - I doubt very much it's true - that they're being 'stalked'? You're both beyond parody. You do realise that it's not such a good idea, when someone suggests you're prone to mindless paranoia, to actually demonstrate it, right? And since we're on the subject of accusations borne of conspiratorial rubbish, are you now - after the court case and all the evidence you could possibly want - prepared to apologise for suggesting that Lee Rigby was play-acting his own murder?
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You haven't gone far enough down this particular surrealist track. He not only believes the McCanns control the press; they control the police too. The defamation suits, in what counts for his mind, are about control, not the truth. It simply hasn't occurred to him - it is beyond the bounds of possibility - that the McCanns' legal actions might have been successful because the imputations against them were baseless. It is the misfortune of the rest of us that we have to glimpse into a mind so limited by paranoia, lack of functioning imagination or ethics (eg accusing murdered people of play-acting) - whose 'thoughts' are echoed only by an anti-Semitic buffoon. McCann-baiting is a depressingly popular pastime - but when the conspiracy fanatics join in it's an idiot's accident waiting to happen. The gutless pair lack the courage to actually repeat the libel against the McCanns, so sneer and insinuate around the edges. Peevish paranoia and cowardice all wrapped up in one unedifying package.
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What you think is the sound of applause is actually a thousand facepalms.
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On the same basis, if I say you passed information to Hitler then you did. You live in a world of delusions and demons. Harold Wilson was also accused of being a Soviet spy by another senior Soviet figure (and later defector) Anatoliy Golitsyn. This was retailed in Peter Wright's Spycatcher. You'd think - as Wright as an assistant director of MI5 - that this would mean it was true. Unfortunately, Wright was pap writ large. Just as his accusation that Sir Roger Hollis was also a Soviet mole (the 'fifth man') turned out to be utter tosh, so too did his guff about Wilson - guff which nonetheless was taken up by the Daily Mail and others in a smear campaign. These accusations against Labour politicians and trade unionists were two-a-penny from the late sixties to the late eighties. Nothing has ever gone beyond whispers - no evidence, nothing. The demons are getting the better of you. When was Benn EVER in a position to implement a NATO exit or UND? As I've said, he was a hopeless policymaker, and by the time he moved to the left and advocated these policies he was nowhere near the levers of power and was reduced to being the Enoch Powell of the left.
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Good grief. Lenin was dangerous. Stalin was dangerous. Mao was dangerous. Pol Pot was dangerous. Kim Jong Un is dangerous. Benn was a Sunday chapel preacher born with a silver spoon etc - who was useless in government. Foot was the author the 'longest suicide not in history' - the 1983 Labour election manifesto - and was never going to get sight of Downing Street. Calling him a 'Commie' is equivalent to calling you a Nazi.