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I binned it, but good suggestion.

I had HARRY REDKNAPP 1 put on a shirt. One of my biggest regrets because even after blasting the letters with a steam iron and peeling them off the words were still outlined.

What an amazing co-incidence.

Yeah.

I've always spelt it with a d and will continue to do so. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=randsom

Neither, unless you count lip service. With countrys like France unwilling to use their millitary, and with China already doing nicely out of both countries as they are, and with us and the USA tied up, there's very little chance of either situation being tackled with force. That said out of the two countries Burma would be the priority as they have oil.

There are big similarities between Burma and Rhodesia. Even on the politics show today a Tory guest compared Robert Mugabes rule with that of the Generals and both countries have mineral resources and both countries have a colonial past.

I'd like to know who payed the randsom

That isn't relevent to the point I was making. If it was white people murdering black people and forcing them off their land in Rhodesia today you would be up in arms, but because it's the other way around you choose to ignore the ethnic cleansing.

There are still 500 people being held presumably from merchant ships.

What have the kikuyu got to do with rhodesia? Presumably you're talking about the ZANU PF minority shona that have systematically murdered the majority Matabele. Also Mugabe not only terrorised and seized the assets of farmers from pre 1980, but he did the same to white farmers that bought land post 1980 onwards. So your argument has no grounds in the case of the latter. in the case of the former most of them built their farms out of scrubland and it was because of people like them that the life expectancy for the native people rised so greatly. You have no idea Badger, but it fits in with your left wing agenda to turn a blind eye/support genocide when it suits.

I'm being a realist based on the Iraq war. That said I think in this instance it's wrong to just consider the resource issue because there are western christian citizens with british ancestry involved here (who fought for the crown) which makes it an issue of defending British citizens. For that reason alone we should be in there protecting them and their interests.

Rhodesia has diamonds and mineral resources, but I agree it would have better if they'd had some oil.

You can be our pink jacketed bridesmaid.

It's not just a Daily Mail readers tour. I saw a similar article in the Express the other week.

Recovering Iraq to emerge as 'exciting' new tourist destination 'The present situation in Mesopotamia has improved vastly this year and we have successfully operated several tours. We have added some previously off limit sites to our itinerary, notably Nimrud, and explored Tikrit more thoroughly. The palaces of Saddam Hussein are included and many other sites.’ http://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/article-1328088/Iraq-set-tourism-hotspot.html So despite your wishful thinking the country is improving and the war therefore was a great sucess.

In which case we weren't fully prepared for the system to be used in an competitive match therefore it was the tactics.

I think it did. How often do you see acts of terrorism on the news today in Iraq. The country is a far better place now than it was pre war. That is not to say the people didn't suffer greatly during the war.

Great News. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-11752027

I agree with this.

So what are you doing? What is you agenda against NC all about?

Keep trying to plant those seeds.

You're a fool. Britain would be part of a UN team ideally, but failing that i'd be fully behind us going in alone or with America as we did in Iraq.

There is an election in 2012. They could oversee it and make sure it was fair and try to limit intimidation.

That is why UN peace keepers would be the best option. As for the Marxist investment - all it is doing is propping up the Mugabe dictatorship and benefiting ZANU PF "war veterens" and those henchmen that supress the masses with torture and intimidation. Morgan Tsangirai is the one ray of hope, but he'll remain a lame duck so long as the Chinese keeping funding Mugabe and in the end the MDC will be crushed. None of this benefits the people of Zimbabwe (and the middle classes - teachers, doctors, lawyers etc have mostly left anyway) and until there is democracy all you will continue to have is the very rich and the very poor. They need our help. And the only reason china are helping is because of the blood diamonds of the Marange field.