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It's perfect so far. The match hasn't k/o'd yet mind.

Before you answer Le God - the Legend (and i'm expecting a typical repsonse like i'd get from the "compassionate" lefties who don't see highlighting the event condusive with their agenda) have a read of this account: This was the way that the British colonial authorities ran Kenya. Leaders like Jomo Kenyatta, accused of being Mau Mau, spent many years in the camps which the British set up in what was known as the ‘pipeline’ – a set of concentration camps where mainly Kikuyu suspected of being Mau Mau were shuttled back and forth, depending on if they “confessed.” Torture by the British authorities of Mau Mau suspects included castration of young men; electric shock torture; denial of food and water which were especially harsh in hot, dry regions; burying victims in a vertical position so their exposed heads were bitten by scorpions placed by guards; beatings using rhino leather, which left victims near to death with the only relief a confession and a repudiation of the oath the Mau Mau all took and which bound them together. No newspapers, letters, visitors, radio and other forms of communication with the outside were permitted, and if there were any violations, the penalties were severe. Many Kikuyus who would not give in simply disappeared, never to be heard of again and there were many eyewitness accounts of prisoners shot dead and dumped into mass graves. There was widespread torture and rape of thousands of women who were suspected of helping Mau Mau . http://www.stabroeknews.com/2010/opinion/letters/05/25/the-british-were-guilty-of-terrible-atrocities-during-the-mau-mau-uprising-in-kenya/

Of course I deny it because i never said that. I said that Britain 60 years later might have been a better country. I talked about the holocaust and how bad it was, but then explained the situation in kenya and the Mao Mao concentration camps of the 1950's, and suggested that we (the British) really were no better. The germans killed millions in camps, we killed thousands in camps. In your view does that make us better or less worse?

Thanks have a read in a sec. I've just been looking for a mining firm in burma that might be a potential investment. Found Ivanhoe Mining, listed on the NYSE, but not sure if they still mine in burma. I noticed in another article that Ang sung etc met with representatives of the firm in 2004 and the firms driver was then banged up for 7 years and the company official kicked out. I have a feeling that Ivanhoe left around this time. Given their position in the region, and relations with Ang Sung etc, they could be worth a punt if it looks like Ang Sung (or her party) is going to gain power in the future.

Sometimes the right view isn't the majority view. Winston Churchill one said that even if everyone else disagrees it doesn't mean you're wrong.

Which views expressed by me are wrong then?

Oh dear.

So it's now racist to find those who burnt the Poppy, and shouted "British soldiers burn in hell, despicable. Much like most Marxists you're all rhetoric.

I was unaware of this. Do you have a link to further reading? I haven't looked at burma in detail, but just knew the scum Marxists were in on the act as in Rhodesia.

I make no apology for that. At present Marxist China and Burmas millitary junta are profiting. I'd much rather it was Britain that was profiting, and i'm sure you'd much rather the Burmese people were too. The only way for the Burmese people to benefit from the mineral wealth is through a Capitalist democracy.

I agree, but unfortunately we are just small member of a global economy.

The curse of the blood rubies: Inside Burma's brutal gem trade They are the most expensive gems per carat on Earth - and Burma is blessed with an abundance of them. The trade in Burmese rubies is banned, but as a Live investigation discovers, the country's corrupt military junta is forcing people to mine them in slave-labour conditions to line their own pockets - and business is booming http://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/moslive/article-1312382/The-curse-blood-rubies-Inside-Burmas-brutal-gem-trade.html The mineral wealth is what is keeping the Milliary junta in power, thanks to Marxist China buying the blood diamonds. It's an identical situation to that of Rhodesia where the Chinese are sneaking out cargo planes of blood diamonds from the Marange field. For those of you on the left that want to make a small stand can I suggest you stop buying Chinese products.

All your left wing enthusiasm is admireable, but in the real world it's only the capitalist system and trade that be the salvation of third world countries. They have in their ground what only the west has the means and expertise to extract. We will benefit, they will benefit.

I beg your parden? Clearly a capitalist system would benefit UK plc and the Burmese people because London listed mining companies would invest in the country. Grow up TLS.

I think a democratic Burma is important because they have mineral wealth London listed companies can exploit. Burma, once an important producer and exporter of crude petroleum, lead, silver, and zinc in Asia during the 1950's, produced only modest amounts of metallic minerals, such as chromium, copper, gold, lead, silver, tin, tungsten, and zinc; industrial minerals, such as barite, clays, dolomite, feldspar, gypsum, limestone, precious stones, and salt; and mineral fuels, such as coal, natural gas, and crude petroleum. Most of the production was for its own consumption. However, most of the jade and precious stones production, such as diamond, rubies, sapphires, and other gems, and certain amounts of copper, tin, and zinc were exported. Burma, with only 57 % of its land geologically mapped, has potential for a wide variety of uncharted minerals

We used to have our own website and that got changed to standard rubbish.

Some things are best thought and not said.

I too would rather go to away games with a better chance of winning, and actually prefer smaller towns unless it's a weekender. Norwich and Ipswich have always been my favourite away trips because they're both nice cities mainly populated with people I can relate to. There's just a nice feel about these cities as they haven't yet gone down the pan like the majority have.

Our away support now is remarkable. During our Premier League days we never used to take that many to places like Blackburn and Middlesbrough.

ITV have their Q3 Interim Management Statement 16/11/10. Adam Crozier did a great job with Royal Mail, so i'm hopeful for my ITV shares.

I don't think we'll concede a goal the way our defence is now gelling.

How times have changed. Peter Griffiths comments in 1964 are really quite shocking when looked at now.

Tomorrow will be a good test for Baj's server improvements as I can see this place being very busy.

One possible answer is to take draconian measures like when Blackburn played Burnley. Make Saints v Pompey travel club only for away fans then there is no chance of any incidents involving those who attended the match and you could hold away fans in for say 30 minutes until the exits to the coaches were made safe. I wouldn't want this, but I can see this being seriously considered.

I think you need to apologise for that bewildering outburst.