Sour Mash

The whole point is they wouldn't be worse off, as their wages wouldn't be depressed and housing costs inflated by continued mass immigration. I did't think you couldn't quantify it it anyway, just wanted clarification.

The many millions of people that don't think we'd be less successful? The millions of people that are victim to wage depression and housing shortages as a result of uncontrolled immigration? Those that believe we should control and govern our own affairs? To what "degree" would we be less successful?

I think you might want to check the latest on the Swiss situation. Ultimately, they pick and choose.

We will all suffer, but still have success. Clear as mud.

Our economy and market is a lot more important to them than Norway or Switzerland. So you think that if we don't agree the same deals as Norway and Switzerland the EU would turn their back on the UK market? And anyway, I'd suggest you check what the Swiss are doing, a good example of picking and choosing what they want.

So what you are saying is you think the EU would turn its back on what of its biggest, most important export markets?

And you think they'll be on our books next season?

We can enter into any number of trade agreements, including the EU itself. Or do you think the French and Germans would walk away from as big an export market as the UK?

Don't get upset, I think you're entitled to your view that we rely on the EU for our success and prosperity, I just happen to disagree with it, not a big deal.

On the assumption that we're currently paying Elia, Alderweireld and Djuricic's wages, how many extra sets of wages are actually being discuss here? One or two?

Who's suggesting we don't have any trade agreements? You're comparing NAFTA with the EU

What difference does it make who delivered the speech? You actually think that has any significance to what is being discussed. You think we'd suffer and not prosper outside the EU, so you believe our success and prosperity is reliant on the EU, that shows very little faith to me.

"Going to spike for a few years" How long has it been now? And what were we told back in 2004? I bet you believed the predicitions back then. But regardless, this shows you're still missing the point. We might need a million immigrants a year, we might need 10 - we have no control in the matter.

Depresses wages, over-inflates demand for housing and services. On the basis that half of China would like to come and work in the UK and would pay taxes and NI, by your argument we should also have open borders for their workforce?

You clearly don't have great faith in the UK, as you think we're reliant on the EU to be a successful and prosperous country, sad to see really.

You think we can and should be building housing and associated infrastructure for 300k+ immigrants per year? Large scale immigration depresses wages, whilst inflating demand for housing in many areas, that's a fact.

The restrictions on benefits will have little impact. The problem with such large sacale immigration is the flooding of the job and housing markets.

You said the EU was vital to our future and we would suffer without it, that doesn't suggest you have much faith in the UK if you think we're that reliant on being controlled from Brussels.

Who has suggested any of that? Very sad to see some have such little faith in this country and its people and seem to think our prosperity is entirely linked to control from Brussels. A very narrow, constrained view of the world.

Yes, every major, successful, long-standing manufacturer will rush out the door You do scare easily.

You're the one telling us that much of our economic strength is based on being in the EU, I just asked what condition you thought our economy would be if we were outside the EU.

How is governance from the same capital city, that has successfully governed for many hundreds of years, 'arbitrary'? Setting the same laws and governance for an English town as Athens, purely because it's suited short-term political agreements is most definitely arbitrary. I believe as a nation we should be able to make our own laws and control our own borders.

Much of it? What state do you think the UK economy be in if we were outside the EU?

We're one of the biggest world economies, we wouldn't have any problems arranging our own trade agreements, possibly more favourable than those that are currently in use. Look at how much the German and French economies need us, they're in no position to freeze us out in the cold. Your suggestion that our economy will somehow collapse is frankly ridiculous.