Barry Sanchez

Sorry what is your point? We know this, mp's make their money up by lobbying and moonlighting, they get £100,000's for this. The benefit package is pension and conditions of raising the membership which Crow has.

I agree with you on that, I have spoken about this and he says why should he disrupt his children and family life, which is a fair comment but I still dont agree with the principle. Poor example though as a council/housing scheme house is not a bonus of his position so try again.

Do you believe you have ever got good value from them?

You can assume what you want Pap.

You want it to be about where people are born Pap, where have I mentioned that, thats your exclusive liberal fearful agenda.

I left the party this year after 20 years in, you only joined last year, you are defo a Liberal Pap anyway.

No we dont pap, we dont know how to enjoy ourselves, we are too scared. You sloped of the War thread once you could not copy and paste I see, and as for stating the obvious well, your contribution was hardly required:lol:

And what? Another ppe graduate travels to London to right the wrongs of a right wing Government shocker......................

The facts remain they can claim an awful lot more than they are supposed to, they lobby and sit on boards of corporates and make huge amounts using their status to earn an awful lot of money. Pray tell what better conditions over an mp does a Union leader have? Better pay yes but what else?

You are taking the urine right? You do know what an mp does?

There is a forgotten, nay almost forbidden word, which means more to me than any other. That word is England. Sir Winston Churchill

Its being steered by the extreme leftist agenda on here, turning it into a right wing issue when having a day off together should bring all together, Australia Day is great to anyone who has been out there, St Patricks Day is brilliant as well. Its not a negative at all, merely driven by sandal wearing people who hate anyone having a good time.

Morning Mr Crab.

Their cavaet is they can not take into account the possibility of extra work which they all do do. Its a public service, they shouldn't moonlight whilst working for and representing the people.

Now that is the question:)

Christmas trees in general.

Always play it out from the back.

I would to, people jump onto the fact of St George, the rabid extreme left do anyway but I say I am not arsed if its any figure but one we all can unite over and have a day off together, it does not have to be a figure at all.

Travel, pensions, 2nd job for coporates lobbying, the recess's which are ludicrous, 2nd houses, parliamentry privilege so lets not feel too sorry for the power hungry bastards.

No they wont, only possibly in marginals but not anywhere else.

Criticising IPSA is one thing but the mp's accepting it is another, is it morally right? You lead from the front.

So were Kings and Queens, that does not mean the people of this Nation can not have a day together to celebrate all that is good about this Country.

Cant we then celebrate how lucky we are and therefore how grateful we are together, some of us for being born here and others for coming here and enjoying what this Country brought them here in the first place? Surely thats a positive inclusive thing to be promoted? And to finish people do choose Countries.

I dont most use it as a wagon to lobby for coporates and thats what really feathers their nests.

Is it morally right and thats the issue for mp's to take and accept a 11% payrise when expect the people who elected them to accept none or at best very low increases and below the rate of inflation? Thats what boils peoples pi ss, thats the issue.