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You implied it was an attack specifically targeting the local Jewish population.

Thw first line was completely unnecessary, the second was to cover your arse just in case.

The issues with RM's coaching is that we are still making the same screw ups we were making in September, we don't seem to have learnt a thing, and still pissing about at the back - we got away with at least 3 very close shaves with passing between Baz and the defenders as Watford pressed high.

Sore loser. I thought there should have been at least a couple of yellow cards for them long before the ref actually showed the first one.

What is the record for giving the ball away stupidly ? We must have got close today.

From a Police press conference just underway..... "She adds that police do not have fears that he was "holding an ideation - in other words it is not a terrorism incident. He is known to law enforcement"

I certainly don't think the ones our son works for are.

Francis

487:1 and counting.

Shark

Adam Crozier; "Whatever the difficulties, if people genuinely felt there were problems, they should have said something.' They did, Adam, but they were then accused of lying and sent to prison.

No. I was listing a number of people who had been accused and convicted of being terrorists, whilst their supporters viewed them as freedom fighters. ( 3 of those 4 were associated with opposing British colonial rule ), hence the "One man's terrorist......"' quote. It is a matter of personal perspective and experience. If you want to find somebody to justify Hamas go find a Palestinian.

I agree, but I'm not Palestinian. Then again Archbishop Makarios, Nelson Mandela, Menachim Begin, Martin McGuiness.........

"One man's terrorist....."'

And until these discussions take place further expansion of the settlements continues. I accept that one easy PR win for Hamas is to release the remaining hostages, but will Israel stop the settlements ? However the discussions/ negotiations go, every day brings more Israelis in the West Bank who will fight tooth and nail against eviction.

And where would the Palestinians be living ? Without the West Bank and probably Gaza how can there be a 2 state solution ?

If you were a Palestinian living currently on the West Bank, seeing your land forcibly taken away and settled by illegal incomers, being sniped at by those same people whilst the Police stand by and watch, would you just sit on your hands and accept your fate ?

Whilst Israel effectively occupy the West Bank and continue to build illegal settlements why should they ?

In 1947 would you have supported it? If so, why ? Hindsight is such a wonderful gift.

Who are these "'good guys' ?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shimon_Peres

Somebody has to speak for them, and realistically it should be their choice. Regardless, it is moot whilst Netanyahu's coalition is in power.

It was a quick and dirty solution to try to sideline the problems arising from the dissolution of the Ottoman Empire and later the end of WW2. The British were the colonial power post 1918, and up to 1947 were the target of Jewish terrorism, led by many future Israeli political leaders. Personally, given my more modern aspect and knowledge probably not, but then that would bring a whole load of new problems. I would probably have given Faisal what he was promised, but the British at the time were arrogant and dismissive of the "'fuzzies"'. As I said, looking back and playing thought games can be great fun, but the issues are in the "'here and now"'.

Convoluted ? What would you do, oh great and wise one ?

With the current Israeli Government, yes.