badgerx16

It will have bugger all to do with you, so how can you 'take the victory with good grace' ? The whole process is just a sap to the LDs that the Tories have arranged to give the best possible chance of a 'NO' result. If this were a serious referendum STV would be the option, as a far more fair and proportional system, but there's a chance people might actually go for that. As it is the vested interests, within both main parties and their electoral machines, have no desire to risk their safe seats by ditching an electoral system that means they don't have to worry about ever actually attaining a MAJORITY vote.

tiger ( feet )

Proof if proof were needed - the benefits system is too easy to milk.

wings

Shakespeare's birthday ?

That would be 'otherwise' then !

actor

I'll see your WireShark and raise you with mirrored switch ports and passive sniffer interfaces; ( snoop -d )

rummy

The problem is where to draw the boundaries. Do you try to ensure that there is a balance between the numbers of 'traditional' Labour and Conservative wards, or produce a proportion of 'safe' seats, if so how many ? What happens if in a particular area somebody builds 4000 new homes and the demographic changes; you would have to continually redraw the boundaries to accommodate small changes in the numbers on the electoral roll.

I am thinking that a 'yes' is necessary, not because I want AV - I think we should go for STV, but because a NO vote now will shut the door on any future consideration of a proportional system. If there is a YES result then I think that it is the first step to a truly proportional system, where the parties actually have to learn to work together in a professional manner for the benefit of the country. If we get a NO then we are stuck with a system where less than 30% of the electorate will continue to produce unstoppable majorities and the Red-Blue pendulum will keep swinging.

rendition

crouch

bobby

Just signed the online petition. Anybody who can't be at the match, get on here and do likewise : http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/wchcsaveoceanward/

phage

shaker....

boiler

Gotterdammerung

Trust me it isn't. Thinking like that keeps me in a job

No it wouldn't alter it, it would 'fix' it. Up to the point of observation, all possible outcomes exist.

technicolour

So, still a daily diet of hate & lies then ?

We seem to be going WAAAAY off topic : http://tabloid-watch.blogspot.com/2010/02/worlds-greatest-newspaper-wont-win.html "the Express continues to call itself the 'World's Greatest Newspaper' on its masthead every day. Its circulation is collapsing, it serves up a daily diet of hate and lies and the complete lack of any nominations in these awards means it becomes increasingly hard to understand how they are allowed to make this obviously bogus claim."