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I think, if someone threatens to kill you, that does kind of make you a victim doesn’t it? There are some proper nutters out there and you never know just how far they will take it. It is bad enough having to carry the weight of the current consequences and possibly still end up losing his job without having to deal with death threats too. Let’s not forget what actually happened to cause this and how it has been blown up out of all proportion!

FFS, it is just football. Who on earth deserves death threats over a game played by over paid prima donnas? People have done far worse and got a lot less grief.

Archer scored two yesterday in a 4-3 win in a friendly.

I think I read somewhere that the FA said that they would be taking a look. Nothing to look at properly until the appeal process has concluded, which could take years of course.

Let’s be honest, you don’t have to be Mystic Meg to claim with a level of certainty that something will either happen, or will not happen today (depending on any given set of circumstances). Little wonder that people become cynical.

Probably best not to have mentioned that his granny was a member of the IDF though.

I thought that he had accepted guilt and the hearing was all about what he did and why he didn’t think that he had done anything wrong - mitigation.

If more people had the courage of their convictions and stood up for them perhaps Trump would no longer be in office. Too many people duck below the parapet and hope it will all go away. The more people who come out in support the better. South Africa were hammered from all quarters. Netanyahu’s Israel should face the same level of international shaming.

Other than make a case for proportionality, which clearly didn’t happen with the EFL punishment.

I think they will have a problem if they hammer one club for 3 relatively minor offences which had little effect on the games involved and go easy on another club for 115 serious offences which clearly gave them a huge advantage financially over a longer period of time.

So because some rules are written down, we can’t question their legitimacy or the level of punishment in proportion to the rule broken? Other teams have committed far more serious breach of rules and have not received the level of punishment that we have (which is the main point here).

One word. Proportionality.

The timescale rule is why this makes no sense. As you say, it is black or white. There is no grey. If it is not ok to spy, just ban it all of the time for everybody. As for Tonda being hammered for cheating, where do you draw the line? Is what he did any worse than diving for a penalty or trying to get an opponent sent off, both of which could have a bigger impact on the outcome of a match than watching a training session or knowing a bit earlier if a player is fit or not.

Maybe we will reach the point where players wear balaclavas and no longer have their names on shirts just in case the opposition get an unfair advantage if they know who they are playing against. As for publishing team sheets an hour before a game, how has that become acceptable?

Not just me, plenty of people including seasoned pros. If the rule was sound why is it only the EFL who has it? As we know, it only came about because the EFL wanted to be seen as doing something about Leeds. No one else followed. No one in any league around the plant. Why? Because it was nonsense for the reasons previously explained. You can with spy or you can’t. The idea that it is ok depending on a timescale or which league you play in doesn’t make sense.