sadoldgit

There have been plenty of examples on here and there are plenty if you bother to google. Perhaps you have your mask on back to front?

More stereotypical guff. Anyway, you are too busy looking for the anti-Muslim post of the day.

Agree with the above. Don't mind losing it we are played off the park but apart from some quick dangerous counter attacks we looked very much in control after the fist 15/20 mins.

A push is a foul, plain and simple. Not a "mis-match." Hand ball is hand ball where ever the ball might end up. Just because Mane effed it up it doesn't mean that the hand ball should not have been given. Yes Leicester had the better chances but you win games on goals not chances and there is a fair shout that theirs should have been chalked off and that we should have had one or maybe two pens.

If Mane had finished better there would be no argument. Agree with the poster who said that Leicester had the better chances. Thought we started badly but gradually got back in the game and pretty much controlled it second half but looked shakey on the counter. It is all well and good having plenty of possession and control but you have to test their keeper as well and we didn't enough. Pelle is getting a lot of stick but his ball through to Mane was superb. Tadic looked lively when he first came on but seemed to vanish. Was impressed with Clasie but he should have been in that position even though Morgan clearly shoved him. Oh well, would rather Leicester won the Prem than Spuds so not all bad. Re the handballs,I have seen them given for less. I thought the first one was nailed on. Definite movement towards the ball. Doesn't matter if it was going on to hit his body, if he handles it it is hand ball no matter where it might have ended up.

So if you prefer Cedric why not put him in your team, it appears that you have frozen him out too with no idea why?

As you say, they have made things worse, a lot worse. They may not be the root causes of the problem but they are certainly helping the recruitment drive for radicals. The root causes as you say existed a very long time ago when the world was a very, very different place. Things move on. Many religions have mellowed since then. When people feel that they are under threat they will inevitably become defensive (ie the Israelis) and attitudes polarise. Clearly the vast majority of Muslims want to live in peace and harmony with the rest of the world but we play into the hands of the factions who see The West as an evil to be irradicated. Before I get jumped on by the usual suspects this is not about apportioning blame, it is about being smarter about how we handle the situation going forward. And no, I am not talking about sitting down and having a cup of tea, I am talking about finding a way of co-existing on the planet that doesn't entail constant warring and destruction.

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jimmy

F U N E X?

Yes it should tell you that you are 99% wrong on the other issues.

Hmmmm interesting comparison. I think you will find that a lot more people agree with me than you would like to think.

Top post!!

trunk

bush

The Two Ronnies were brilliant comics and helped by some great script writers. The fork handles sketch was genius and brilliantly played out. I remember both Ronnies and John Cleese in the Frost Report back in the 60s which was also really good stuff. RIP Ronnie

Yeah, bastards aren't they!

That can be remedied Whelk!

dive

Do you accept that IS don't seem to have a problem killing Muslims as well as others?

Who would have thought it. Hypo and me agreeing on something?

Depends what your definition of backlash is. It would appear that you expect them all to come out publically maybe? You have ignored the evidence that their has been a response. You have ignored quite reasonable opinions that actually the atrocities have nothing to do with "normal" Muslims and that they have nothing to apologise for. Fair enough, That is your opinion. I think you are wrong. We will have to agree to disagree.

This is the point isn't it? What are people supposed to do? It has nothing to do with them. They have no responsibility for the actions of a minority of nutters. We shouldn't forget that Muslims are also victims in some of the indiscriminate killing that goes on. About 60 were killed in 9/11 alone.

Blimey, if I had a quid for every time that a thread went off topic I'd be minted!

Fry and I have quite a long history, I will leave it at that. I made a comment about Hopkins but my point was more to do with the Muslim backlash and it wasn't me that made a huge deal about it. I was just responding to other comments. Hypo brings it up every now and again as it seems to amuse him. As As for the backlash, I have seen plenty of condemnation from the moderates but I suppose it depends on what you consider what is enough? What has it got to do with the blokes in the curry house for example? Do they need to fly the tricolour or the Belgium flag in solidarity? I know I am being glib but it hasn't got anything to do with the majority of Muslims so why should they feel the need to apologise or distance themselves from a bunch of nutters? As I said, there was a Muslim peace march in London a while back that was given very little media coverage. There may be a lot more going on that we don't hear about, it doesn't mean it isn't happening. Oh, and there are ways of disagreeing with people that don't have to be personal or unpleasant.