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Yep, apparently God was on the side of the Nazis too!

What did I make up mate? I confused one post from you with a post made by someone else. I did not make it up. By the way, I apologised for the error to you twice but you chose not to accept my apology for my mistake.

Indeed! I have had several messages on Facebook recently asking me to support the banning of the Burka because apparently it is a security risk? Is it really anymore a risk than hoodies. balaclavas, raincoats? I might want it banned because it is a hideous fashion but really, isn't this just another way of saying we don't like these people, they are different. I don't know how many people wearing burkas have carried out terrorist acts in the west but I am willing to suggest that it isn't many.

I haven't made up stuff and I haven't made myself look silly. It is just how you like to try and score points. If you took off your point scoring blinkers are read what has been said perhaps you would understand a bit more. Both religions have holy books which have been interpreted in various ways over the centuries. We were told here earlier that Muslims are a threat because their holy book tells them to kill the Infidel. The vast majority of Muslims seem either not to interpret their book in that way or they are just rubbish Muslims because out of the 1.6 billion of them, most of them do not kill non believers. It is simplistic in the extreme to say that this is a Muslim problem. It is a global problem, not helped because of the reliance of the West on oil from the Middle East. There I have said it. This is not just about religion. This is not happening because one religion is more bloodythirsty than another.

The trouble is Hypo that you get yourself worked up and misunderstand what is being said.

Isnt that most followers of Islam chose to live peaceful lives though? Just because some factions chose to interpret something in one way (and they are clearly in the minority) doesn't mean to say that the whole religion and ideology is tainted. It just isn't true to say that Islam is more violent than Christianity. We have only just worn poppies in remembrance of some of the most barbaric wars in history perpetrated in the main by people who say they are Christians.

What am I making up? We are talking about religions and what those religions supposedly preach, It has been said on this thread that Muslims are a threat because part of their Holy Book says that they must kill non believers. To say that Muslims are more dangerous than any other religions is a nonsense. What is happening now is down to a number of extremist factions. That is not all of Islam just as the "Troubles" in Northern Island was all Christians. If what you say is true why do we have so many peaceful Muslim communities in the West, why aren't they all on the streets killing and maiming. We are talking about a small % of people who are using a religion as a front.

Very interesting and very worrying. And it does highlight that the problem goes much further than the interpretation of a few lines from their holy book.

Just for you Batman. He then went on to provide figures of the number of Muslims in prison here and I France. I am not sure what that has to do with a group of extremist terrorists because I am sure there are plenty of diversity in every prison of the world, human beings, rob and burgle and rape and commit fraud etc. No one is distancing terrorism from Islam but to pretend that they are all a threat just because a few chose to interpret the Koran in a specific way is ignoring the fact that there are millions of Muslims who do and who want to live in peace. In our lifetime there have been plenty of incidents of terrorism committed by Christians too you know.

Did you read those posts?

As you say, the more we label all Muslims as dangerous extremists the more we play into the hands of the terrorists. This is exactly what they want, to drive a wedge between us and the moderates.

Why are you laughing Caped Crusader? You believe that all those who follow Islam are threats too?

If you have read this thread you will see that I am not making this up. Apparently all Muslims must kill the Infidels, it is written in their book! For a start that it just an interpretation that has been used by extreme factions. Secondly go and look in the Bible and you can find plenty of examples of extremism. Finally, if this was the case, this country would be in a state of civil war. Amazingly, most Muslims here don't seem to want to kill us and go about peaceful lives every day.

If you have been following this thread you will have read that some posters don't believe that the problem is about psychopathic extremists but it lies with Islam itself. Despite the fact that most of them live peaceful lives alongside people of different beliefs we are led to believe, according to some, that they are all the enemy and that their religion decrees that the rest of us must all die. They are clearly pants at being Muslims then because most of them don't seem to follow that line of thought. #320 and #326 will give you a heads up.

But it is not bonkers is it? Christians have been killing each other for centuries and are still doing it as I type. To try and make out that Christians are somehow a more peaceful folk than Islamists just flies in the face of history and all available evidence.

I read on the Gay thread that Britain was a tolerant country. You wouldn't think so reading some of the posts here today.

Yes, Islam is peaceful until the fanatics move in, and you can say exactly the same for every religion under the sun, including Christianity. And that is the point. We are talking about extremists here, not the small minority who use religion for their own agenda.

Have you been following this thread?

They do though. Many Muslims come out and speak against the extremist factions. Many have helped the victims of terrorist attacks. The recent beach attack saw a wall of young Muslim men protecting the holiday makers from the gunman. Do you really believe that peaceful followers of Islam are not horrified by these killings too?

Indeed, but apparently they are all plotting to kill us. Seriously, WTF?

You really need to move past this. We are talking about psychopaths here, not ordinary Muslims.

And your point is? You are more likely to be killed here by a British "Christian" than you are a Muslim. I am willing to bet that you speak to loads of Muslims every day. Still alive then?

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A hell of a lot? There is some heavy stuff written in the Bible too and you cant tell me that the Catholics and Protestants have spent a lifetime turning the other cheek. It is how some people decide to interpret what is written and clearly the vast majority of Muslims are peaceful and law abiding people.

Listen, if 1.6 billion Muslims decided to take out the Infidel you are I would not be sitting here typing this stuff today.