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Something does change in the second half. We look more confused and disjointed. Aribo, Archer etc get stick for not changing things for the better when they come on but with the team looking less coherent (lack of fitness?) it is like turning up to a kids game on a playground where people have a vague idea of what they are supposed to be doing but not doing it how and where they should. We rarely play to Archer’s strengths. Robinson showed signs of being a decent player but has now regressed to another bit part player who doesn’t add much when he comes on. There was a lot of talk about clarity when Eckert got the job. I saw little of that yesterday or during the second half against WBA. Perhaps we just sign mostly thick players who can’t work things out on the pitch?

That’s his main strength. Getting in the way.

It is indeed. I don’t know what these people hope to achieve other causing even more pain and misery. It won’t change anything other than the people’s lives who have lost family, loved ones and friends. You are right, Netanyahu’s actions in Gaza and the West Bank have painted targets on the backs of Jew’s all around the world. There is a whole new generation who are growing up and seeing Jewish people as land grabbing genocidal aggressors thanks to the actions of his government and the IDF. This is never going to end.

Back in the early 90’s I lived with someone whose Dad was one of the principal singers in the Minstrels. When the main show ended he used to tour with another of the main singers using the brand to sell tickets. By then blackface was less acceptable but he said that the audiences used to be disappointed that they didn’t use blackface in the shows. He, personally, couldn’t see the problem with it and saw it as paying homage to the great black singers. Different times. Lenny Henry had his first big break on the show too, although he disassociates himself from it now. She said that the cast used to treat him like family and were upset by his later comments. Al Jolson was hugely successful in the States and used blackface in his performances. It wasn’t seen as racist at the time and Jolson said that he did it to bring black music to a wider audience. He was against segregated audiences and fought for equal rights for black performers on Broadway. As I said, different times.

Just because you think that one particular journalist is bias in her use of language doesn’t mean to say it is wrong. You won’t find many people who do not agree that Robinson’s political views tick the “far right” boxes as do many of the people who support Reform U.K. That is why they are seen as being “far right,” not because some “loony lefties” have decided to call them that as a pejorative term. As I said to Farmer, various terms are used to differentiate between various degrees of views between left and right. You yourself define anyone left of centre as a “loony lefty.” That suits your narrative. The term “far right” suits the narrative for those who see the difference between moderate right wingers and more extreme right wingers. It has nothing to do with Emily Maitlis specifically but you zoom in again on something to deflect from something else. It is a classic ploy used by the likes of Trump and Farage. The kind of people whose views you seem to have an affinity with.

It was on a broadcast. I didn’t think that you meant them specifically. Here is another article from the Independent that links Robinson with “far right.” https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/tommy-robinson-supporters-christianity-brand-anti-muslim-b2880952.html I’m really not sure why we are having this discussion. Robinson, Reform UK and Farage are all very firmly linked with views that are very widely described as being “far right.” I haven’t made it up. The only people who get upset about the term are those people who share those views. As someone who professes to be a Tory himself, I would assume that you would want there to be a well defined term that disassociated your views from theirs?

Good point. There are only 7 days in a week still and we play 2 games in 7 days. Imagine the extra mental fatigue you must face if someone is telling you that you have played 3 games in 7 days. Poor lambs.

The Faragists won’t like this but it sums up the current situation perfectly. https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/other/will-farage-s-trumpian-strategy-work-against-him-he-has-good-reason-to-believe-it-won-t/ar-AA1Sh0EL?cvid=48fb4af33b294ab7bbe9eca5481f8c65&ocid=hpmsn

I still can’t get my head around how poor we were in the second half. No energy. No commitment. No desire to get the second goal. I can live with losing but at least make a fight of it.

I know about their backgrounds and both are highly respected journalists. Your problem is that you are so biased you think everyone else is. Both of them know and understand a lot more about politics than you ever will. You throw around labels but throw your dummy out of the pram when others use labels you don’t like. You support people with questionable values. Own it.

There are plenty of you google are Reform UK a far right party and is Tommy Robinson far right. https://bylinetimes.com/2024/10/07/why-reform-uk-is-far-right/ https://www.theparliamentmagazine.eu/news/article/british-farright-activist-tommy-robinson-to-stand-in-eu-elections Some examples above.

Get Manning off! 😂

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Without Scienza and Fellows were are very average.

I don’t think that the Regency period Blackadder writing progressed from the Elizabethan era. The WW1 era however had a more depth with the subject matter giving the writers more to get their teeth into. It was ok, but the bar was very high after series 2.

Blackadder is an interesting omission from many lists. The first series, written by Roman Atkinson and Richard Curtis, wasn’t great. Ben Elton and Richard Curtis wrote the Elizabethan themed second series, which was brilliant. They also wrote third series, which was okay, and the fourth series set in WW1, which was again brilliant, especially the last episode which is probably one of the greatest pieces of television ever. For those who hate the BBC, that alone was worth the license fee for a decade. I’m guessing that it is not up there with the greats for many because of the unevenness of the four series?

Donald in trouble with the law again. https://www.wsj.com/politics/policy/trump-is-sued-over-white-house-ballroom-construction-3e9098a0?gaa_at=eafs&gaa_n=AWEtsqfH-gLp0s9XVuG3oloSMWg_KCl5IwFRBRJweTn6I08cR2x6qZ4fk9OXT-Qp7ZY%3D&gaa_ts=693c7f7c&gaa_sig=biQJ5IYCu0n0FdksN2wVpJkwTah6lbJxBxQKxZYAxzW7fuDADCGQg678a5s7cMs0yZ8dvBPDD-gNv12cbsVM6w%3D%3D

I have read countless articles and listened to countless broadcasts where the journalists/reporters have described Reform UK as “far right” and Robinson’s views as being “far right” but if you are desperate for some names here are two recent ones - Jon Sopel and Emily Maitlis.

I didn’t say you were. In fact I said that I didn’t think that you were. The language that I use comes from the people in the media who talk about people with what they call far right opinions. If posters support those people it is not unreasonable to conclude that they sympathise with the views expressed. There is a big difference between Ralph and myself. He defends the views of the kind of people I attack. I am not the only person who thinks that Farage, Robinson etc are scumbags with abhorrent views. Anyone supporting or defending them is no better. If you posted something slagging off Robinson and someone responded by being supportive of him, don’t tell me that you wouldn’t reach the same conclusion that I would. I will say this for both Ralph and nic, neither pretend to be anything other than who they are and are very open about what they believe in.

I don’t know what constitutes a moderate Tory in the 1930’s but there was clearly a big gap between the main Tory Party and people like Mosley and his black shirts. Obviously we didn’t have the immigrant issue in the 30’s to the extent that we do now, although Jewish communities faced discrimination. My point is that the Tory Party became more divided over Brexit with the party generally moving further to the right. You mentioned being a one nation Tory yourself, those moderates vanished after Johnson came to power. There is now an area of politics that is between a moderate Tory and the extreme right (which you could label fascistic). This area covers people with the type of views that have been mentioned about and are labelled now as “far right” and “alt-right.” What you would call “right” the media calls “far right” now to differentiate between moderates and more hardliners. From what you post I don’t think that you could be classed as “far right” so it differentiates between your views and those with harder views. I think we all know what we are talking about, we just use different labels.

Not sure where to start. Most of them to be honest, hence why the AI search refers to the definition of “far right” as it does. As I have said before, I refer to certain people and views as being “far right” because the media do.

Haven’t seen Yellowstone but we enjoyed 1883 and 1923. I’m not going to be very original and say The Sopranos and Games of Thrones. Came late to The Line Of Duty but that is up there. Oh yes, agree with Slow Horses too. Comedy wise it has to be Only Fools and Horses along with Monty Python and Fawlty Towers with a special mention for Michael Palin’s Ripping Yarns. Tomkinson’s Schooldays was particularly brilliant.

Katie Hopkins’ official YouTube channel has had over 160 million views. I wouldn’t call that disappearing from view. She might not be as visible as she was before she was suspended from Twitter/X but her name is still synonymous with far right views.

Sanctions or no sanctions, under International law what the US did = piracy.

If you look at the definition above it says that the definition has changed in recent. The degrees from centre right to extreme right have been redefined to meet today’s ideologies rather than those of the 1930’s.