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I don’t recall the Black and White Minstrels singing about gassing Jews or any other BBC comedians making jokes about gassing Jews back in the 70’s. https://news.sky.com/story/nigel-farage-launches-tirade-at-bbc-over-allegations-he-was-racist-at-school-13479504

If it is true that Spors brought him in because he saw him progressing eventually to become the first team coach then that is a reasonable assumption.

Mick Fleetwood and John McVie are one of the best rhythm sections in rock. I was lucky enough to catch the Rumours tour and have seen them a few times since and they always put on a good show. Sadly just a bit too young to see the Peter Green FM though.

Still having a pop after all these years when you did the same on another forum but have forgotten about. I don’t know what I have done to upset you so much but really mate, let it go. Apart from those who liked your post, no one cares. Do yourself a favour and put me on ignore. Hopefully you will have a better Christmas that way. By the way, the people who criticise me are the same old usual suspects, you being one of them.

No shit, Sherlock! https://www.politico.eu/article/european-leaders-warn-us-could-betray-ukraine-in-leaked-call/

What is scary is that they used to be pushing the boundaries of rock music. That was now well over 50 years ago.

I refer you to my post above. I think you said that you were into Prog Rock? Perhaps if I told you I was into ELP, Yes & Genesis I might redeem myself?

I have Wish You Were Here and Momentary Lapse of Reason but find most of it one paced, a bit druggy and soporific I was never into “pot” so that didn’t help. Dark Side of the Moon passed me by, probably because of the massive hype back in 1973, and I never really bothered with it after that. With Radiohead I loved The Bends and OK Computer but, for me, they lost the plot after that and I lost interest in them. It would be a very boring world if we all liked the same thing, eh?

Have you seen the bit where McCartney knocks up Get Back whilst waiting for Lennon to turn up to the studio?

I could never warm to Ferry’s voice so agree with that choice. I also thought that The Clash were highly overrated, but then I didn’t care for the whole Punk/New Wave thing as there was nothing new about it . It was all derivative and they all stole from the bands that they slagged off as being dinosaurs. I’ll give The Stranglers a pass though because although they ripped off The Doors they had a great sound. Apart from a couple of albums I struggle with Radiohead. The same with Pink Floyd. Also struggled with all of the poodle haired American rock bands that were everywhere in the 8O’s. Oh, and E.L.O. will forever grind my gears. Next Beatles my arse. And Blur.

Another one to be pardoned by Trump? https://wjla.com/news/local/dc-pipe-bomber-arrested-january-capitol-attack-riot-virginia-man-arrest-federal-authorities-republican-democratic-national-committee-headquarter-offices-suspect-surveillance-camera-fbi-rewards-kamala-harris-nancy-pelosi

Is this Ralph or nic? https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/reform-uk-donation-nigel-farage-christopher-harborne-brexit-b2877908.html#

Exactly.

What ever they are Badger, they are playing to and resonate with people with far right sensibilities. Not more than a handful? So you agree with me that he does have some sympathisers here then? This one is for you Ralph. I don’t think you answered my question. You said that you thought that I had some extremist views. What are they please?

I quite agree that there is a broad spectrum on both the Left and on the right. I don’t think that the people I have mentioned and who have been supported by some on here (Trump, Farage, Robinson etc) are remotely centre right or just medium right. They are all what any politically commentator would call “far right.”

I have been on this forum for 19 years. My posting style has been developed over the years by being constantly attacked by people who have an issue with me attacking people like Trump, Farage, Robinson, Hopkins etc. and their opinions. I don’t see you defending my right of free speech. Is that because you sympathise with the things that I don’t agree with? I disagree with your opinion about the resurgence of the right. I think people now feel emboldened to say what they think because the see people in the public eye getting away with it. It never went away. It just went underground. People call people like Trump and Farage racist because they are, not because they are misunderstood. People are getting upset because they are being called out for what they are and don’t like hearing the truth.

In your opinion. For example there are plenty of clear examples of Islamophobia on this forum. There are clear examples of support for people with far right views on this forum.

I don’t doubt that it can be wrong, but was it’s definition of “far right” wrong?

If he was alive today, apart from being very, very old, would be using the technology. As for Reform. Not a fag paper between them and the Tories nowadays. https://www.thelondoneconomic.com/politics/nigel-farage-tells-donors-he-expects-reform-election-deal-with-tories-report-401006/#

It doesn’t have to be his mate. 😉

Yes, I agree about the judge but at least that person is very experienced and wants to be there. There will still be an appeals system if it is believed that the judge has got it wrong for whatever reason. The rape example - they are not tried in a magistrate’s court - was just to demonstrate that a jury will never give you a perfectly balanced cross section of society (not that there is such a thing) and there will always be elements of bias in a group of people with different life experiences. A jury’s strength (a peer group) can also be its weakness. I didn’t know if the conferring had been suggested as part of the new system. Judges do take advice. They look up similar previous cases. Where does judicial independence work on the magistrate’s bench?

Good point. As said, no system is perfect and there will always be miscarriages of justice for a variety of reasons. Trial by jury does not guarantee that defendants will receive a better type of justice. It just means that 12 people will decide your fate. If you are lucky you might receive a jury who takes the process seriously and give the trial process and the evidence their full consideration. You might also get a jury who can’t wait to get home and will go with the loudest voice or the strongest opinion in the group. Just a personal opinion, but I think that you are less likely to get unsafe verdicts under an experienced judge who, I think, will be able to confer with other judges if they are struggling to reach a decision) than random groups of people whose level of engagement in the process and general suitability is undetermined. Another thing to consider, rape cases will continue to be tried by jury. How would you feel about them being tried by all male or all female juries? If you think there might be an unconscious bias in either, at what point does that cease to be a concern in a mixed sex jury?

Which is why I am defending my position here now. Another definition of what the far right is from The Encyclopedia of Politics: The Left and the Right. It says that far right politics include “persons or groups who hold extremist, nationalistic, xenophobic, homophobic, racist, religious fundamentalist or other reactionary views.” Is it unreasonable to conclude that anyone who expresses the views above or jump in to defend the people (examples; Trump, Farage, Robinson, Hopkins) who are called out for espousing the views above, support/share these far right ideologies? Would you jump in to attack a poster who posts against something you were also deeply opposed to? I wouldn’t. Why would you unless you shared the same opinions?

So Reeves wasn’t lying after all. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/czj0ngnkl2vo.amp

For those who do not trust ChatGPT, here is a more in depth look at the “far right” ideologies. https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/5d8b882740f0b6098d33fefa/Joe_Mulhall_-_Modernising_and_Mainstreaming_The_Contemporary_British_Far_Right.pdf