Frank Powell Anyone??

[TijuanaTim]

Someone contacted me with reference to a Saints fan Frank Powell who liked a bit of Northern Soul.

 

Does anyone remember him from games in the mid to late 70s? Went to a lot of away games up North (due to the locality of Wigan Casino and Blackpool no doubt).

 

Be honest I cannot remember him.

[Muckers]

Certainly do remember Frank, used to go to games with him including the FA Cup triumph. Last I heard of him was shortly after he had been made redundant from Eastleigh railworks. We travelled a lot with the guys from Portswood area late 70's. Blackpool and Bradford were the highlights!

[spyinthesky]

Slightly off topic but whats your favourite Northern Soul record?

[TijuanaTim]

Slightly off topic but whats your favourite Northern Soul record?

 

Always played this (link below) on the car cassette player (after recording it from a 45) when we were on the way to away games....Breath-taking still to these days.

 

Last time home drove to four games with TTjr, he loved listening to the Northern Soul stuff on the way to Oldham and Sarfend...

 

Dig this

[TijuanaTim]

Certainly do remember Frank, used to go to games with him including the FA Cup triumph. Last I heard of him was shortly after he had been made redundant from Eastleigh railworks. We travelled a lot with the guys from Portswood area late 70's. Blackpool and Bradford were the highlights!

 

That'd be the guy, can you give a brief description so that we're on the same page f'sure.

[solentstars]

That'd be the guy, can you give a brief description so that we're on the same page f'sure.

 

are you on about frankie powell the coloured guy a,lovely bloke who use to wear tanktops,if so eastleighsoulboy is the guy to ask:D

[TijuanaTim]

are you on about frankie powell the coloured guy a,lovely bloke who use to wear tanktops,if so eastleighsoulboy is the guy to ask:D

 

That's him...mate!!

[EastleighSoulBoy]

are you on about frankie powell the coloured guy a,lovely bloke who use to wear tanktops,if so eastleighsoulboy is the guy to ask:D

 

Mel Britt is a classic TT!

 

I last saw Frankie about 9 months ago. He is now heavily into his religion and pounds the streets with a friend passing the word of the Lord.

 

He's a lot more thick set these days and is a distinguished grey around the temples and his trademark moustache.

 

Some people used to knock Frank but he really is a lovely and genuine guy. Never caused an ounce of hassle and always had a good word about everyone he had ever met. He gave me a copy of The Philadelphia flyers - Humming Out A Different Tune which is a classic 7T's tune.

 

I worked with Frank, Toddy, Steve Sine etc at the Railway Works back in the 7T's. We had some enjoyable evenings on coach trips to Andover and The Country Bumpkin.

 

Frank is known and well remembered on the N.S. circuit and people talk highly of him.

[TijuanaTim]

Mel Britt is a classic TT!

 

I last saw Frankie about 9 months ago. He is now heavily into his religion and pounds the streets with a friend passing the word of the Lord.

 

He's a lot more thick set these days and is a distinguished grey around the temples and his trademark moustache.

 

Some people used to knock Frank but he really is a lovely and genuine guy. Never caused an ounce of hassle and always had a good word about everyone he had ever met. He gave me a copy of The Philadelphia flyers - Humming Out A Different Tune which is a classic 7T's tune.

 

I worked with Frank, Toddy, Steve Sine etc at the Railway Works back in the 7T's. We had some enjoyable evenings on coach trips to Andover and The Country Bumpkin.

 

Frank is known and well remembered on the N.S. circuit and people talk highly of him.

 

Andy, thanks for the update on a true Southampton fan & man. You're a great guy and we can always rely on you to tell it the way it was and is (for GM). Did you travel with him to games and did you go with Jim Brown, Gibbo and Micky Carter etc sometimes.

 

Different going to away games now, tho' at Roots Hall and Boundary Park this season it felt more like the 70's than the 'oughties'...here's one of a very few NS/TM crossovers for you another great 'road-tune'.

[EastleighSoulBoy]

Andy, thanks for the update on a true Southampton fan & man. You're a great guy and we can always rely on you to tell it the way it was and is (for GM). Did you travel with him to games and did you go with Jim Brown, Gibbo and Micky Carter etc sometimes.

 

Different going to away games now, tho' at Roots Hall and Boundary Park this season it felt more like the 70's than the 'oughties'...here's one of a very few NS/TM crossovers for you another great 'road-tune'.

 

 

Classic Isleys.

 

Jim Brown (Portswood) travelled more with the Town/Warrens lads. Although I have been on a few coaches with him, most notably was the B'ham (A) in our 70's relegation season when we were the only coach there. Notable faces were Paul Ansell, Les Easterbrook, Steve Williams, the two Smith lads from Thornhill? Kev Read, JB, Toddy, Andy Sutch and Gracie. I think Rosie was also on board? After the game I remember the driver wanted to cut and run for it, leaving Andy, Grace & a couple more at the mercy of the Brum fans. He wouldn't stop when requested so one of the Smith lads 'persuaded' him with a swift smack in the mouth.

 

The coach was bricked out and the mid November trip home was cold although relieved by a bit of a warming stopover in Oxford to drink and meet/greet the locals.

 

Frank wasn't a big drinker and used to just do his own thing on away trips, he would often be found trawling the local record shops.

 

Here's a classic

 

broken in the UK by Ian Levine.

 

 

**EDIT** Found this!

 

http://www.humyo.com/8051/PHILADELPHIA%20FLYERS%20-%20HUMIN%20OUT%20A%20DIFFERENT%20TUNE.mp3

Edited 10 March, 2010 by EastleighSoulBoy

[Noodles34]

Freda Payne - Band of Gold is my choice, maybe its not classed as NS, don't know but a classic to me.

 

Anyway, as someone too young to have been around then its nice to read about the old days following Saints when football 'was' football and the fans were blokes who liked to have a good time and stuck together. I don't think today you get the characters in the fans, its all a bit too 'family' orientated or you get a bunch of 'yoof' who "run on home to their mum". Listen I'm not knocking women and kids etc but I would have loved to follow Saints in the 70's watching the honest 'British' players playing, yeah they might still have been on a few quid more than the mortals but it wasn't so disproportionate like today.

 

Maybe someone could write a book on the 70's away day adventures etc, that would be a good read for those who were there and those who sadly will never get the chance.

[EastleighSoulBoy]

Freda Payne - Band of Gold is my choice, maybe its not classed as NS, don't know but a classic to me.

 

Anyway, as someone too young to have been around then its nice to read about the old days following Saints when football 'was' football and the fans were blokes who liked to have a good time and stuck together. I don't think today you get the characters in the fans, its all a bit too 'family' orientated or you get a bunch of 'yoof' who "run on home to their mum". Listen I'm not knocking women and kids etc but I would have loved to follow Saints in the 70's watching the honest 'British' players playing, yeah they might still have been on a few quid more than the mortals but it wasn't so disproportionate like today.

 

Maybe someone could write a book on the 70's away day adventures etc, that would be a good read for those who were there and those who sadly will never get the chance.

 

Freda Payne is loved more than you probably realise!

 

Band Of Gold ws released on Invictus.

 

Invictus was formed by H-D-H (Brian Holland, Lamont Dozier, Eddie Holland) after they broke away from Motown.

 

H-D-H were famous songwriters, just check their credentials out:

 

http://www.songwriteruniverse.com/hdh.htm

 

http://www.discogs.com/artist/Holland-Dozier-Holland?anv=Holland%2C+Dozier%2C+Holland

[Muckers]

You've all definetly got the right guy. Top bloke who just stuck by his friends. Had forgotten the famous tank tops, bags etc, we were reallly cool in those days! Franks Dad used to cycle around Woolston wearing a crash helmet, forward thinking for the 70's.

 

My favourite NS tunes would be by Al Wilson, Kim Weston, and some of the more popular tunes by Dobie Gray and Frank Wilson. Have several complilation CD's in the car which are a mix of true NS and crossover songs. There are some good clothing websites about such as Warrior and Atomretro, pricey though.

[EastleighSoulBoy]

You've all definetly got the right guy. Top bloke who just stuck by his friends. Had forgotten the famous tank tops, bags etc, we were reallly cool in those days! Franks Dad used to cycle around Woolston wearing a crash helmet, forward thinking for the 70's.

 

My favourite NS tunes would be by Al Wilson, Kim Weston, and some of the more popular tunes by Dobie Gray and Frank Wilson. Have several complilation CD's in the car which are a mix of true NS and crossover songs. There are some good clothing websites about such as Warrior and Atomretro, pricey though.

 

Al Wilson (dies last year) - The Snake? Help Me?

 

Kim Weston - I'm Still Loving You / Helpless

 

Dobie Gray - Out n The Floor (one of my favourites)

 

Frank Wilson - now a preacher and on FB. No need for the title to that one eh?

 

500Gb + here of N.S./Motown/Stax etc.

 

ALL Tamla Motown singles and albums. Most U.S. stuff.

 

Loads of N.S. (some 17,000 tunes) , All the Goldmine CDs, Kent also.

 

Also lots of early SKA (proper, not the Two Tone) Blue Beat and Reggae.

[EastleighSoulBoy]

Slightly off topic but whats your favourite Northern Soul record?

 

Often changes but

 

is always there or thereabouts.

[TijuanaTim]

Classic Isleys.

 

Jim Brown (Portswood) travelled more with the Town/Warrens lads. Although I have been on a few coaches with him, most notably was the B'ham (A) in our 70's relegation season when we were the only coach there. Notable faces were Paul Ansell, Les Easterbrook, Steve Williams, the two Smith lads from Thornhill? Kev Read, JB, Toddy, Andy Sutch and Gracie. I think Rosie was also on board? After the game I remember the driver wanted to cut and run for it, leaving Andy, Grace & a couple more at the mercy of the Brum fans. He wouldn't stop when requested so one of the Smith lads 'persuaded' him with a swift smack in the mouth.

 

The coach was bricked out and the mid November trip home was cold although relieved by a bit of a warming stopover in Oxford to drink and meet/greet the locals.

 

Frank wasn't a big drinker and used to just do his own thing on away trips, he would often be found trawling the local record shops.

 

Here's a classic

 

broken in the UK by Ian Levine.

 

 

**EDIT** Found this!

 

http://www.humyo.com/8051/PHILADELPHIA%20FLYERS%20-%20HUMIN%20OUT%20A%20DIFFERENT%20TUNE.mp3

 

As you know, they're pretty well all mates of mine (and your's)...Funny Jim Brown recollection, went to WHL with him back in the 70s, he was with his bird - me with mine (Pat was it?) anyway he'd been going out with her for way longer than me and mine. So I dated mine for 3 years, married her for 20, had two kids, divorced her about 13-14 years ago and Jim is still 'going out with' and not married Pat FFS..

 

Think the game was one of those drab 70's 0-0s with Spurs, seemed liked we had about 5 in a row until it exploded into a 4-4 draw!! What catagory =

[Muckers]

I always remember picking up the coaches outside the Guildhall on Friday nights, ****ed on the way to northern towns, arriving at silly o'clock in the morning, hungover and starting all over again. Getting back sometime Sunday morning, real weekenders, god knows where the money came from?

[spyinthesky]

Andy, thanks for the update on a true Southampton fan & man. You're a great guy and we can always rely on you to tell it the way it was and is (for GM). Did you travel with him to games and did you go with Jim Brown, Gibbo and Micky Carter etc sometimes.

 

Different going to away games now, tho' at Roots Hall and Boundary Park this season it felt more like the 70's than the 'oughties'...here's one of a very few NS/TM crossovers for you another great 'road-tune'.

 

Thanks for the Isley Bros track. Haven't heard that in many a year,

 

Isleys proabably one the real underated Motown groups.

 

Presume backing by the Funk Bros and strings by the Detroit Symphony Orchestra some of whom used to moonlight on Motown tracks.

 

Spoke to someone today who has recently returned from Detroit. He said it was a very sad place with whole neighbourhoods of derelict houses, the consequence of flight from the city due to mass closures at the steelworks and car factories.

 

Apparently you can pick up a half decent house for $25 provided you can live with the feral gangs that roam around.

 

Shame when you think how buzzing the place must have been in the 60's and 70's

[Ponty]

Ok, guys, I think this has meandered sufficiently to warrant a place in The Lounge now.

[EastleighSoulBoy]

Thanks for the Isley Bros track. Haven't heard that in many a year,

 

Isleys proabably one the real underated Motown groups.

 

Presume backing by the Funk Bros and strings by the Detroit Symphony Orchestra some of whom used to moonlight on Motown tracks.

 

Spoke to someone today who has recently returned from Detroit. He said it was a very sad place with whole neighbourhoods of derelict houses, the consequence of flight from the city due to mass closures at the steelworks and car factories.

 

Apparently you can pick up a half decent house for $25 provided you can live with the feral gangs that roam around.

 

Shame when you think how buzzing the place must have been in the 60's and 70's

 

It is indeed a sad state of affairs with Councillor Martha Reeves not making any friends, despite her best efforts.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/19/national/19reeves.html

 

Smokey summed it up after the race riots, over 40 years ago:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7fWuLjK0JI

[EastleighSoulBoy]

It is indeed a sad state of affairs with Councillor Martha Reeves not making any friends, despite her best efforts.

 

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/01/19/national/19reeves.html

 

Smokey summed it up after the race riots, over 40 years ago:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7fWuLjK0JI

 

 

Furthermore:

 

Requiem for Detroit BBC2 Sat 13th March 8pm.

 

I think that this will be essential but disturbing viewing. There's a great photo of Martha Reeves & The Vandellas on page 46 of the new Radio Times.

 

 

Detroit 'Requiem' Composed For Two

 

 

An award-winning independent production company has been commissioned by BBC Two to produce a documentary that will tell the 'roller-coaster' story of a US city's automotive industry.

 

Told through the testimony of the people who lived through it, Requiem for Detroit?, is a single episode 75-minute programme that is being directed by Julien Temple, from Films of Record, a Ten Alps company which specialises in high quality factual programming

 

He said that it will be powered by extraordinary archive & vivid projections of the famous American city's heyday on its now abandoned buildings and the irrepressible music that continues to come out of Detroit, from ragtime and rap to techno.

 

The documentary will chart the rise and fall of the 'Big Three', General Motors, Ford and Chrysler, and the impact the decline of these giants has had on the city.

 

Detroit was at the forefront of the American dream of the 20th Century. The fourth largest city in the US, it was also one of the wealthiest, housing the country's earliest shopping malls.

 

America's first major freeway was also built in Detroit to facilitate the increasing number of commuters into the city.

 

But the 21st century has seen the American dream - powered by the Big Three - slide into a nightmare for Detroit.

 

Levels of black inner city poverty, hunger and unemployment have reached critical proportions, in grim contrast to the affluent white suburbs which surround the city.

 

Requiem for Detroit? will include interviews with the people living amongst the deserted auto plants, closed schools and failing infrastructure, as well as those who are based in the consumer utopia of the suburbs.

 

It will also feature interviews with Motown star Martha Reeves and beat poet John Sinclair.

 

Julien Temple said: "Detroit was the frontier city in the US, powering the American dream. What I find fascinating is the fact that it is still ahead of the game, becoming the first big US city to virtually fall off the map."

 

Also commenting, Roger Graef, Executive Producer, Films of Record, said: "Detroit has effectively become a ghost town. Its police stations have been abandoned and the once thriving office blocks now sit empty, paperwork still left on desks. At rush hour, the freeways are deserted.

 

"Many people have written it off completely, but those left within the city limits still have lives to live and strongly conflicting opinions about what lies ahead for the city. Seeking to raise questions rather than impose answers, Requiem for Detroit? will allow Detroiters themselves to examine their own visions of the future," he said.

 

The documentary's producer, George Hencken, added: "Detroit was a city at the vanguard of the future, the crucible for the cars and music which symbolised the American Dream the world over, and its post urban post-industrial chaos serves as a warning to the rest of the world.

 

"But despite its ruined landscape there is still hope, as those living within the city's limits continue to fight for its survival, creating their own solutions such as urban farming and a strong network of young activists."

 

For BBC Two, Cassian Harrison, Commissioning Executive for the BBC, said: "The story of Detroit is an extraordinary tale of boom and bust at the heart of the American Dream, stretching over an entire century.

 

"To have Julien Temple bringing this great narrative alive for us is a great privilege," he said.

[Deppo]

Looks good, ESB. I'll record that. I'm morbidly fascinated by the decline of Detroit and the state it's in now.

[EastleighSoulBoy]

Looks good, ESB. I'll record that. I'm morbidly fascinated by the decline of Detroit and the state it's in now.

 

Having spent the majority of my working years involved in the auto industry and having a love of black american music (mainly Detroit) I somehow think it will be a hard watch for me.

[spyinthesky]

In a roundabout way (notice the auto reference!!!) there is a degree of similarity with the situation in Liverpool post war.

Detroit was a major maufacturing base with a strong music heritage which lost about 50% of its inner city population over a relatively short space of time. Liverpool suffered similarly.

Both cities have some grand old buildings but some areas of particularly bad deprivation.

Thanks ESB for the heads up. I would have missed the programme tonight.

[spyinthesky]

Has the BBC 2 schedule changed tonight?

[EastleighSoulBoy]

Has the BBC 2 schedule changed tonight?

 

Still showing according to the net:

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00rkm3y