Our luck today

[Roger]

I’m pretty critical of saints and we didn’t play great but we were v unlucky. Archer was miles onside and had a saints player next to him at 1-0, their goals were goals hardly anyone would score in this league in terms of quality and no way was it a foul by Charles for the free kick. With Flynn getting poorly before game it’s made me reassess. Not good enough but 9/10 we win. 

[benjii]

19 minutes ago, Roger said:

I’m pretty critical of saints and we didn’t play great but we were v unlucky. Archer was miles onside and had a saints player next to him at 1-0, their goals were goals hardly anyone would score in this league in terms of quality and no way was it a foul by Charles for the free kick. With Flynn getting poorly before game it’s made me reassess. Not good enough but 9/10 we win. 

The foul was by Matsuki and the first goal was soft.

[Polegategavin243]

17 minutes ago, benjii said:

The foul was by Matsuki and the first goal was soft.

The foul absolutely was not Matsuki, that was a different free kick, it was definitely against Charles and not at all a foul as I stated on the match thread. The officials have been predominantly against us, so far this season. It’s a trend that has been running for a few years now, not at all sure why. Archer was kept onside by the left centre back who was a good yard to yard and half behind the other centre backs and would have been clean through one-on-one, and most likely to score and at 2-0 we would have comfortably won.

Edited Saturday at 18:25 by Polegategavin243

[skintsaint]

2 minutes ago, Polegategavin243 said:

Archer was kept onside by the left centre back who was a good yard to yard and half behind the other centre backs and would have been clean through one-on-one, and most likely to score and at 2-0 we would have comfortably won.

We need VAR....

or not depending on the situation.

[goodymatt]

13 minutes ago, Polegategavin243 said:

The foul absolutely was not Matsuki, that was a different free kick, it was definitely against Charles and not at all a foul as I stated on the match thread. The officials have been predominantly against us, so far this season. It’s a trend that has been running for a few years now, not at all sure why. Archer was kept onside by the left centre back who was a good yard to yard and half behind the other centre backs and would have been clean through one-on-one, and most likely to score and at 2-0 we would have comfortably won.

Yeah Matsuki made a foul, ref gave advantage, then Charles won the ball and ref gives a free kick for the Charles tackle. Matsuki gets a yellow and they score top bins. It wasn’t a foul and if advantage wasn’t deemed enough then the FK should have been taken from way further back where Matsuki fouled. 

Also not convinced that Manning wasn’t fouled for their first goal but maybe he was too weak. Alongside the Archer clean through offside decision, it’s fair to feel the officials have cost us 2 points today, regardless of how much better Watford were second half.

Edited Saturday at 18:38 by goodymatt