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By the way, Saints are playing in last season's black away kit with aap3 stuck on the front.

I can now also confirm that Saints ARE playing in last year's away kit with aap3 stuck on the front and it looks, quote, "horrendous".

Just to set some minds at ease, the team against FC Biel (kick off v shortly circa 5:30pm) have warmed up in last season's away kit shorts and socks, as per a text I just received from a mystery forum co-owner. Haven't yet come onto the pitch though, so they're running a little late.

Newport County Unofficial : http://www.the-exiles.co.uk/viewforum.php?f=1

I'd love to see some kind of blog which captures all that is ridiculous and ridiculously good in football. Ooh, hold on : http://ridiculousfootball.blogspot.com/ Apparently also on twitter @ridiculousfooty and Facebook... MLG, I've bookmarked btw, very useful (especially for building depth to the articles on the site above if necessary).

Especially given that Sven loves a 4-4-2 and Konchesky's not much of a left back if he's not pushing forward.

It's certainly the most logical solution, and would help them shift on some more of the black kit stock they still can't get rid of at half price in the Megastore. Who says fans want kits without sponsors on them ? They want to be able to differentiate between the away kit and the training kit as well... .

I'm not suggesting there aren't people for which this isn't their best option - just that for a lot of people that isn't a priority as far as the service goes.

If I had to bet I'd be going for the black away kit from last season with aap3 stuck on the front. The training kit they've been wearing doesn't have numbers on the back and I don't think the sponsor would easily stick across the stitching of the home kit sash.

One other thing I've just spotted - the Clifton is actually their 2010/11 v-neck striped shirt template (can't remember what it was called) with a collar on it... ...and they've dropped the "Santos" opposite direction sash from the page from the season before last.

That would be hilarious. Plan a big kit launch and then unveil the new kit(s) on the pre-season tour 7 days before. It would nicely capture some of the inconsistencies within the club at the moment.

That's the Huddersfield template they've been given for 2011/12. Also, can I say "source" ? Don't think I've ever done that on here before...

And that's the crux of it. The gist of the matter is that most kits worn by pro teams aren't available in Teamwear styles - there are tweaks to them - eg last year the sash kit was an Umbro Teamwear kit but the sash went the other way, there was Saints-specific detailing on them as well (as well as the badge). Even Huddersfield's local sports retailer Umbro deal has got them a reversal in colours of one of the striped templates - as well as the Chevron away. If it's just "the Clifton" then it's not like ANY of the designs people have suggested on here recently. I've heard a lot about the NY Cosmos collar (and a couple of kits have since come out with Cosmos-style collars) Saints haven't had bog-standard teamwear shirts from Umbro so far. Also, that Clifton shirt doesn't have any black on it... And as far as "like Brazil", the chevron kits are nothing like any kit Brazil have worn (though they are a new style and a lot of teams are wearing them as away kits). I'd also think that if it was "just a plain striped kit" - which ironically was one of the first I suggested from the 2010 Rangers / Bilbao striped kits, that someone would have said that by now. And a chevron is not a hard concept to explain in a couple of words - but no-one has...

I never come on here on match days because I'm either at the match or watching/listening to other coverage. So I'm not really that bothered about server performance at "peak times" - or for about 4 days after any defeat, as I don't usually bother to read the same people saying the same ill-informed things then either.

I really don't know why people persist with this garbage about changing the badge every season. As well as the club using the regular Saints badge on the new kit adverts, they have also now taken down the massive Anniversary banner next to the ticket office and replaced it with a 40 foot high banner of the current, definitely not being changed, existing Saints crest. If you think they'd do that if they were changing the club crest you are an absolute stark raving mentalist.

I've got Magnadoodle.

Agreed. There seems to be far too much modding of nothing in particular going on generally. Possibly because the mods have less to look at, so they're more obvious when they do things ?

Same goes for me with the transfer rumour megathread, and I have been ignoring it, just like the Pompey Takeover thread (since about March 2010) because I can't be bothered to try and catch up. I do feel completely out of the loop on the transfer bullsh 1t though because I can't be arsed to wade through it, and I wish people were able to post individual threads as well.

Alright Cortese Jr., you've made your point.

Alright Cortese Jr., you've made your point.

I'm pretty much with you on this one, just leave it alone. That way people can discuss the rumours in two places if they like.

You'll forgive me for not noticing a single individual player thread in the past 3 of 4 weeks since the mega-thread was going.

I have stevegrant primed to text details if they debut it in Switzerland...

Are you using Illustrator ?

Indeed, probably going to have a central red stripe based on that ?