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one of the most interesting aspects of this game. Hope he has an absolute stormer.

did they discover his weekly wage?

I know Chelsea were decent last year, so the law of averages would suggest he would figure in a lot of games where they won, but I don't think they lost a single Prem game when he played. Not sure that means diddly squat, but as I don't know how good a player he is, its all I've got to add.

1. Lingard is on £80k a week, not £200k. 2. Gibbs cost £25m not £44m. 3. Gibbs tends to play as a winger, Lingard in the middle. Gibbs and Lingard both were on the field on Saturday. Even if they played in the same role, can you have too many attacking talents? Wish we had too many ball players behind out strikers. 4. Gibbs was outstanding last season. He also looked damn good when he came on on Saturday. Took the piss out of Everton defenders. Lingard has a lot to play for. A new contract for starters. 5. They have three strikers. Which decent clubs don't have competition up front? 6. They lost Garner and Zinchernagel from their central midfield area and they had sod all behind that. Multiple new CM recruits were desperately needed. 7. Seems pretty coordinated. They signed the best from the championship in Gibbs, Toffolo and Obrien. They signed experienced Prem keeper on loan, which protects their finances if they go down. They signed young pacey talented fullbacks. Championship sides know how good Richards is. To be honest I dont know what a coordinated approach would look like. I get the feeling that fans' problem with Forest is based purely on jealousy. Rather than sign 6 first team players and make do with a bench full of league 1 level players, they have bought a bench too. If you were the manager, you would have done exactly the same. Tell me what other choice was there? Sorry, not sure why I even give a fuck. Lets talk Saints.

Let me assure you, Forest fans are absolutely loving this and could not give a fuck about what happened to Fulham. They lost 6 starters in the summer, have replaced them very well and replaced all the players that were not even good enough to get in their side in the championship. For them, the summer window has been absolutely fantastic. To paraphrase my Forest supporting brother in law: "To be competitive, there was simply no other choice but to recruit a lot of players this summer. The number of signings doesn't matter. Good players gel quickly. All that matters is how good those players are and how they perform over the next year and beyond."

sounds good, but aren't those two Italian clubs just `old rumours'?

For some reason I thought Rondon chipped in with some goals last season, but he scored 1 in 11 starts pus 12 sub appearances. He was a 1 in 4 man at WBA. They really need DCL back fit. Is he still injured?

This cycling of money between sister clubs seems to happen more and more. Will we be doing that soon I wonder?

Wonder how many strikers Chelsea would like to keep for the season. They don't really have many, Hazertz, Broja, and maybe Aubanyang. Sterling maybe, Batshuayi if desperate.

I thought he looked pretty good last season. He was Everton's best player anyway. £60m though. Blimey. The money these big clubs have is unbelievable. How on earth do you compete when they buy a squad player for as much as we spend in an entire window on five or six players. It's little wonder we get absolutely murdered from time to time (like we did at SMS against Chelsea last season).

Patrick Mahomes got a (up to) $503m (depending on performances) 10 year contract at the Chiefs. He's a superstar and with wages (and the cap) continuously rising, it's seen by many as a very sound investment.

I like him, but that's a hell of a lot of money if accurate.

Is there any chance he goes the other way? Everton seem like the size of club Broja might want, all be it they are struggling a little currently.

Richards broke his leg during pre season.

They play wing backs. They signed Toffolo and Omar Richards, but the latter may have a serious injury.

Ha. Starting to look like it. 16 players signed in total by my count so far. Of those, Aguilera was acquired and immediately loaned out. Of the starting line up, the three centre backs and Johnson were from the promotion side, with just 3 of the 9 subs from the promotion season. So that's 13 new players and 7 existing. Richards and Niakhate (both new signings) and Colback (existing player) were injured. Existing players Soh, Smith (3rd choice keeper), Cafu, Arta and Taylor didn't make the squad and probably won't be required. Big old turnover of players, but of the promotion side, Samba wanted out, Spence, Garner, Davis, Lowe and Zinkernagel were all loans that went back. So they needed six first team players for starters and replaced most of the bench/squad players that were not good enough to play in the championship so are hardly likely t be good enough for the Prem. If you were the manager, wouldn't you have done exactly the same? One extra note. Lots of criticism over the £25m plus add ons Gibbs transfer fee, but he took Everton to pieces when he came on. Could be a very good signing for them. I'd of been happy to see him at our place.

I repeat an earlier post, if Ramos stays at Benfica scores 25 goals (which will be a lot easier their than at our place) then he gets a move to a much bigger side than Saints. Come to Saints and struggle to get goals this season and his career could stall. However, as you say money talks and I guess we are gonna have to pay £100k a week for a £30m player, so maybe that trumps the career path. He could after all not get those 25 goals at Benfica and then he misses out. I've changed my mind. He could well come.

sure, but I estimate that the pull of SFC in the Premier league is a lot less than the pull of say, Man United in the Premier League. I don't see a starting striker at Benfica leaving them for us. Maybe I'm wrong. Time will tell.

I think your overestimate the pull of SFC.

we would be, but having won against a side that is possibly not at their best, we shouldn't rest on our laurels. Its a long and very hard season. We are not creating a huge amount, we don't have a huge number of goals in the term and we still have full back depth issues. If the funds are there, then there are areas to improve.

Got to say that Jackson feels very Broja-esque (which I am sure is still a type of player we are interested in) in that he has the pace and power and can quickly turn defence into attack all on his own. Was that rumour only social media based? As with Benefica, Villareal feel a lot more attractive to a young player than moving to Saints, so not sure why he'd come to us right now. I did notice that he has only just broken into their first team this season, so maybe we would see him in a similar light to Chelsea/Man City (buy their best talent from them), although as he is now in the first team perhaps that train has sailed.

Were Wolves in for Ramos too and now wouldn't be? I thought it was Newcastle and Everton? I just cant get my head around him leaving Benfica for Saints. Money talks, but it just doesn't feel right to me. For some reason Nicolas Jackson feels more aligned.

Agreed. Burnley fans were adamant that Collins was the player they wanted to keep the most and likely to reach the very top. Sadly for them he didn't go under the radar, despite it being his first Prem season. £21m was too rich for us.

Wasn't he about £21m? That's a fair bit more than the £9m we spent on BK. Mind you we wouldn't have spent £7m+ on Lynco, so could have put that money into the pot.

People on here certainly did. My immediate posts about him were that he's just too slow to ever b top quality at this level and he's probably throwing himself in front simply because he's too slow and has no choice. Admittedly, finding a CB that is strong and powerful in the air, very good positionally, pretty good with the ball AND also very sharp/fast is the holy grail.