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...and then five minutes later KWP is obviously pulled back and the ref ignores it. That said, hardy the ref's fault we have done absolutely fuck all. This five at the back formation does nothing for us going forward. I hate it. I guess we haven't conceded...

Wood error there - losing it in a bad area. He did that sort of thing a lot last season for Swansea. He'll have to cut that out of his game. Bednarek covers him, so it didnt matter this time.

While at Torino he signed midfielder Ivan Ilić from Hellas Verona. He didn't follow him to Roma though.

the 3 at the back thing bugs me too, but wasn't Slot a `3 at the back man' and Liverpool haven't played it once since he came. If he watches the first half of this weeks game against Liverpool he won't impose it on us.

Can you take no prisoners when players know you only have a 6 month contract?

Why is Mark Robbins turning down the chance to speak with Millwall about the vacant position there? Needs a break, is being paid to do nothing or not a big enough job?

there were signs of life in the second half against Brighton. That seems an eternity ago though. Putting two halves together would be good. Looking very solid and limiting opponents to a few tough chances would be nice. It was a weak Liverpool side. Not sure I will take a huge amount of positives from the game to be honest.

Not sure he was asked to play in a more structured way. He just didn't play well. Criticism of a top player is permitted.

whenever we are shit, the `players are unfit' reasoning comes out. We might be, but I don't recall anyone mentioning it last season when we were winning. I would say that we tend to look tired late on because players have worked extra hard to make up for their shit touches, poor positioning, losing the ball etc..

he was pretty poor tonight. Looked a bit sluggish. I general though he has to start. He's quality, but if he plays we do need others that are happy to do the dirty work.

I guess if his powerful header had gone in - it was a good save by Kehler - then that would have been justification.

Not sure I agree. I saw a fair few mis controls and when the space was tight he lost it every time. His finishing was woeful. Can't fault his effort and desire though...and we need some of that up front

No argument from me, but the camera angle showing the refs view explained to me why the ref didn't give it.

Horrific first half. Better second.

Ref had a terrible view of it. Couldnt see the arm across him. Pity.

thats a polite way of putting it.

lovely cross from Sugawara. Great save or it would have been all square.

lovely finish. Come on Saints.

Unlucky for him, but he was struggling to handle Gakpo pace, so the change might help us.

we look like we have zero confidence. Tough times.

we have no idea how to press. Not a clue. We used to be good at that. A long time ago now, but we have to get that back.

got to match up formation wise so players can get closer and show some bite. Right now we have three centre backs standing around waiting to do something while the rest pick up the slack. Time to show some bottle, and get some pressure on players. It will probably just end up with Gakpo running rings around Bree, but we have nothing to lose. Sitting back parking the bus at 0-2 is gonna get us nowhere.

agree. 3 guys marking one striker, which means they have two spare men all the time. How can we put any pressure on them unless the fullback push up...which they don't as they are making the two wingers. It's not working. It never seems to work for us really.

Its most definately five at the back. We have attempted and failed to park the bus... 3 centre backs, yet they still have acres of space to score. Not just their fault though. Gakpo far too quick for Bree, which brings others to him creating space elsewhere. Much prefer four at the back and more pressure on the ball in midfield.

I thought Darren Moore left because he wanted an `average' championship salary and the chairman didn't want to offer that? With that in mind, I can't see Rohl being paid a hue wage, maybe £500,000 a year? If that was the case, he'd have to a have ten year contract for the compensation to be in the £10m realm (assuming his staff made up the other £5m).