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Henderson and Lingard wages would not be carried over to the Championship, but others certainly would. Marinakas. Hmmm. Not sure what to say about him. Best people google him.

I think Garner wasn't for sale when Forest asked earlier in the summer and they have signed one/two CMs since, so it might just be about timing.

It was. But covid cash flow worries are long gone, and £28m was left unspent in teh bank when the takeover happened. You either pay that sum back to the bank or use it.

now that's a `go big or go home' transfer fee for a promoted club, assuming its accurate. I suspect the up front amount is a lot lower, but who knows.

who knows, but you have to keep refreshing the squad and to cover that cost you need to sell a star now and then.

Certainly will, although to be fair, you need to look at activities over a two or three year period. Making a huge loss over one financial year looks bad, but if you sell a player for tens of millions shortly after the accounts come out, the financial situation is completely different. Personally I would be happy to see us continue to spend what we earn and debt be kept low in case we get relegated. £100m of debt feels high to me for a club of our size. Right now though, it seems we are at least gaining some assets. It would be brilliant if we could have a better tan 50% success rate with these young players we are bringing in. Lavia starting well is a real boost. Lets hope Mara flies too.

The £28m cash in bank left over from the `covid' loan was in the end of year accounts. So no maybe about it. Thats the one thing I am unsure about - when the TV payments are made. Is it one lump sum in June or spread across the year? Key though is that this £100m+is already assigned to wages and operating costs for the forthcoming year, so even though we'd have a big sum in the bank, say in June, you can't just spend it all as you'd not have money left to pay wages ten months later. However, it would mean you wouldn't have cash flow problems in July/Aug when you are trying to buy players - so why have we used that excuse for missing out on players? I am guessing payments are spread across the year. The club probably made a decision not to spend on players until they were sure that another player sales was going through. The £28m has prevented that being a problem this year. The interest on that loan/debt, which is now about £80m is about £7m a year and rising. So to stop the overall debt increasing in size we would need to pay at least that interest amount each year. We don't actually need to pay anything until year 5, but by then the loan/debt would be over £100m and the interest on that pushing £10m. Some have suggested that the owners have paid the loan off. There is zero evidence of this. You are right, any additional funds inserted (loaned) into the club by the owners on top of that existing loan could be provided at 0% interest rate should they choose.

Does it? We had £28m in the bank remaining from the loan (not to mention the £100m+ Prem/TV money from 2021 should that be paid in June - I honestly dont know). SR may not have had to put a penny into the club to pay the first tranche of those transfer fees. I am not saying they won't invest/loan the club money, but maybe we wait and see what the accounts show next summer before concluding they have added funds to the cash flow. It's worth noting that spending what you don't earn just adds debt, and cost of debt to the club, which reduces budgets in the future. A £100m debt is going to costs us £10m+ to service each year. And that's £10m less we have to spend on transfer fees and wages.

Fall out, overruled, embarrassed...and you got all this from the MOTD footage? Maybe it was more along the lines of manager discusses changes with his team, listens to ideas, shares his own, he makes the decision, and then we get the reward for it. Isn't that what management is about? Teamwork makes the dream work.

if we can't find a left back better than Djenepo you don't sign him, obviously. I suspect we want to loan a player and thats not easy to find the quality and a player willing to move for one season.

Two seasons ago it killed us.We got away with it last season, but not having two good fullbacks on each side is foolish considering the importance of the position. I guess like last year, every year, there is only so much money to spend.

yeah, its the £25m-30m figure that was bandied about that throws me a little. It just seems too high a price for a player without any games under his belt, so its maybe not accurate, but if it was, then we must see him as being bloody amazing and thus we'd go for the loan even without an option to buy.

Seems slightly strange that we were willing to spend north of £25m on a player that is only deemed good enough to go out on loan to the championship. I guess he will get more games, but I kind of expected him to subsequently be loaned to a Prem side, unless of course none are interested in taking him on loan.

I still don't understand why we signed Lis.

Not necessarily my cup of tea, but Keane, Boly and Suyuncu are not getting games. Sanchez at Spurs is another, and maybe more interesting.

You might be right. We want to bring talent here, and then reap the benefits ourselves. I guess if there is no other option we might consider it. Not sure if we are still looking at fullback, but the Livramento injury might force our hand a little in terms of utilising the loan market.

If he live west of West London then certainly could. I suspect the club still has flats in Ocean village he can rent/use during the week.

If we are a happy to loan him, we seem to be a good option. The Broja loan - lots of games, did well - must play in our favour, not to mention the strong City link with players and head scout.

thought we were comparing it to Southampton, Leicester and Dortmund?

Do we see movement? A lot of signings just `happen'. We seen quite a few links to strikers in the last day or so, all be it, they could be complete bollocks.

at a stretch, more game time? We are shitter than those clubs, ergo he ought to find his way into the starting line up easier. other than that, I've got nothing.

Is that the transfer fee being mentioned or his wages? I am inclined to agree with you, but these few millions (£2.5m in wages for Stephens, £3m for Romeu) do start to add up and we do need to save a few bob if we are to ever start paying off the loan.

what the hell happened there? How does an England player become useless almost overnight?

Really enjoy watching him when he is on song. Hs been a very underrated Prem player. However, his form dropped off a cliff last year. Do you think his legs have gone or was it just one of those things and partly down to the struggle of the entire first team?

possibly saves us about £2.5m in wages. How much do you think the transfer fee is likely to be?