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the players made mistakes, the first goal is a complete shit show from front to back, but I think Ralph is genuinely taking the flack because he knows he deserves some of it.

you've better eyesight than me.

cant argue with that, but three strikers pressing and easily bypassed lead to the first goal. It not like we woudn't have pressed if we had gone 4-2-2-2, but in the first five minutes they ripped us to shreds and the gaps caused by the formation and having three strikers really far forward were a big reason for that IMO.

fair point. Why did we lose? Liverpool beat most, bit not all. How did the teams that didn't lose do it?

where is the Steven Davies type to sit in front of two deeper lying midfielders, cut out passes in their third, link play, fill gaps? I guess our 4-2-2-2 formation doesn't create a position for one, but like you say, not bolstering the middle to control games can be folly. To be fair, Liverpool just play around or through congested midfields, we also do control games with Romeu ad JWP, but I'd always add a body in midfield rather than at CB.

you are probably right, but boy did the three striker press get exposed in that first 40 seconds and then the gap between midfield and defence was massive. IMO it had a major bearing on the first goal. Far too gung ho.

wasn't sure if that was him or Bednerek. Woeful. IMO he still has a lot to learn. He dives in all the time. Against top players you get murdered. He has time on his side, but I don't trust him. Not sure Ralph does either.

I honestly don't recall him doing anything at all in the whole game other than missing the header for their fourth. Whether he was genuinely going for it or indeed whether ti was even possible get I;'m not sure.

I blame McCarthy.

Theres that Tella `sloppiness' that I think Ralf alluded to. Losing the ball when you have en pushed up can kill you. didn't then.

yeah, I agree, no formation stops Salah, but I just don't see us being tighter with 3 CBs. Three CBs and 3 strikers...very unusual. Wonder if it might work against a middling team

look at that. Our corner, their keeper catches it and then a quick long ball creates a 2 on 2 situation. Every fucking time. Didn't hurt us this time, but when will we learn?

why also add extra CBs rather than extra CMs. The only time we should have extra CBs is at the end of games when opponents are smashing long balls into the box. We dont know what we are doing with that formation.

Only Mourinho seemed to have the balls to change things after 20 minutes.

I'd say after about 90 seconds it was clear.

easily could have been another 9-0. Touch wood it still wont be. We should have scored one ourselves mind.

Jota should have his hatrick by now. No CB anywhere near him

he's played well in some of the other games. Not today though.

another brilliant chance on the break...absolute garbage fro Armstrong. He's had a shocker today. Championship level attacking play.

Remember when Forrest left about four up against us at SMS? We didn't know what to do. Is someone like Tella really essential to have back there at corners?

very good point. Conceding to Liverpool is bound to happen, but when you get chances you ave to take them and we've had two or three good ones and failed. Strikers never get the criticism defenders ad keepers get, but Armstrong HAS to score with his chance. Imagine we need that goal to stay up...no lets not do that actually. At least we have created a few, but the balance of the side is always wrong. Not enough quality causes that.

easily. They have had two other opportunities where they really should have scored. A tight offside goal too. It's horrible, but in the end the defeat at Norwich is still gonna haunt us more.

That is such a horrible goal to concede, CBs that don't win headers... Armstrong has to score there. Woeful finishing.

its easy with hindsight, and I am not sure what formation work for us agaist these, but who the hell plays three strikers against Liverpool at Anfield? PSG and....???

is that still with lube or without?