Chez

Watts looked interesting, a few nice touches but not ready for Prem yet. Decent debut though.

Valery defending from that free kick. Absolutely no effort to win the header. Far too casual for me. Lack of desire defensively. The sooner we get Brandon Williams the better. Our cover at both fullback positions is bad.

so its a good method? Gives me heart attacks. Pure luck we have not conceded in games from them IMO.

Again Valery gets forward into a nice position but no end result. I expect better of him.

yes again the high line at freekicks almost leads to a goal, Ralf needs to stop this shit. That is so fucking poor from Long.

Vokins has basically stood at left wing the whole game, but involved in absolutely nothing going forward. Formation pointless if you don't actually feed the widemen. Jesus what a chance for them

looked in that

some really dodgy back passes tonight. Forster has been kept on his toes.

absolute pile of wank from Valery.

Chauke is a non entity. We offer very little threat going forward - we have a solid spine, not much else

not buying this Valery good going forward stuff. He's looked completely unimpressive.

I've changed my mind. he does deserve the stick. He's as bang average as I always said he was.

Not sure any of the youngsters have impressed. Never rated Long, but not sure he deserves the abuse he is getting on here.

Lovely ping from JWP

Diallo's passing has been poor so far... blimey all my posts seem to be negative...our work rate is first class, especially the forward players

In swinger with the left peg. JWP taken over now.

Valery has had a poor start for me, mis controls, sloppy passes. Needs to sharpen up.

Vokins corners are possibly the least threatening I have ever seen.

good point. If the price is right, most would take him to strengthen squad. He is very different asset now to the one Liverpool sold.

You may be over thinking it. He wasn't wanted at Liverpool. We wanted him. He came. It's now a new landscape. His agent will be asking £200k. We will want to pay £90k. Now its simply about how high we will go (to satisfy his expectations) and who else will offer him close to that original £200k (and afford the fee). Simples. If there isn't anyone willing to pay a fee, then they (ing and agent) will readjust their wages expectations or sit it out and wait for that free transfer. In short, it will be all about money. He didn't come here to win things. He came here because we were the next best to Liverpool (at the time).

also, should we start touting him around and agreeing to fee - how `wanted' is he going to feel. You can `force' his way of thinking, which helps push a move that previously may not have been wanted. In the end he will want X million a year and if we don't find it then he will be forced to accept that or look for anther club. Lets hope it all works out.

to be fair, if no contract is signed, is the player not thinking that `the club doesn't value me enough' and perhaps will be looking for a move?

Correct. But loan grows to £122m if we don't start paying it back until 2025

as with Bertie, staying at Saints just seems the right fit. Very tricky finding the finance he will no doubt want. We've already mortgaged the clubs future somewhat. I guess we need to do everything we can to ensure we keep the Prem money wheel spinning to pay that debt off.

Gotcha. FT says: scheme "only open to larger firms with an investment grade credit rating" https://www.ft.com/content/d0157351-9745-4640-8db3-cfc56a043eab