CB Fry

One. Forget that link, there were other threads, specifically about the debate of "we only need to beat the average points for third". I never said it was lots of people, it was some. Brigade is a funny word though. So is lunatic. One of the lunatic brigade was my favourite pet div Matthew Le God. There are others. Two. Being that the team in second already have 82 points, it is impossible for me to be wrong. If West Ham do lose the next three games then I can guarantee the "brigade" will all weasel out of the woodwork with their ridiculous assertion that "well we only needed 80 points after all, all the other points turned out to be unnessessary". Wrong, wrong, wrong. The fact they won't say anything now is the point. Three. It was wrong many weeks ago, because it was always wrong. There are people saying that 80 points is enough pretty much every season, when in truth it has been enough once in a decade - ie hardly ever at all. It's not about hindsight, or what Reading have done. It was wrong then and still wrong now and will be wrong next season too, where the same people will make the same cock-eyed assertion based on the performance of the third place team. Anyway. I've finished on this thread, just a bit of dicking about on my part. I'd love it if WHU do lose their next three, but mainly because it will mean we're promoted.

It will be a sh it ter but come August I will be pleased to go into another season with the opportunity to do the four local East Midlands away fixtures that I've done (or doing, Peterborough this week) this season. I think I'd rather be promoted though.

Thread was directed at the loons who blather on about us only needing to just beat the mathematical average of third place. It was a recurring debate several months ago but its all gone quiet. Just wondered where those people are now, especially the ones who talked about points being "unnecessary" beyond a certain point. By the way 80 points has been enough for second only once in the last decade. It's very rare. It's called belief in the team. If we can't have a swagger on when top of the table, when can you. Plenty of time to worry, fret and fanny about next season. I never said anything was a cakewalk, but the stats and the facts were and are in our favour. If we do guff it up, then it will go down as one of the most spectacular capitulations of all time. I didn't then, and I don't now waste energy worrying about things like that. Because internet forum posts are really important otherwise. If I can poke a stick in the cage of resident forum divs using dopey statistics then I will. You can all have a go back if you like. Part of the fun. And with that in mind... Don't remember talking about hoards or swearing in blood but jolly good try through. You can twist stuff round if you like. There were other "points" threads before that one and there were the lunatics espousing the "slightly better than average for third" routine on those. That opinion, rife among some back then, has entirely evaporated now. unlike you I really can't be arsed to dredge the forum, but hey ho. It's a game, ain't it?

No doubt. This is the worry. Highly unlikely we just dust down and start again. Not going up may create a minor sh i tstorm. But West Ham still have the pressure on. Reading have not had to be top and all the pressure that brings. And we can still do this.

It will be a failure. I am already bracing myself for heated debates with the "if you'd told me in August...." gang. Anything other than promotion now is failure. Of course we recognise the strides made but lets remember Cortese was targetting promotion as a minimum this season back in the Autumn. That doesn't take away fron our brilliance on the pitch or in the dugout. I'm just not ready for noble failure yet. Anyway. We're going up.

I was there too. Not much has changed, but they live underwater.

I've been Uberconfident for weeks but I'm wobbling. Six nil. Six freaking nil. Control the controllables yes but they've landed a massive blow today. All the pric ks on here who have spent weeks droning on about that collapse in 1942 or whatever the frig it was. Well, well done you lot. You've got your little wish.

Eff all to do with Reading. Eff all to do with hindsight. The key point is the eighty point boys aren't actually wrong yet. Its just the conviction seems to have gone. Actually this is the thing: the eighty point theory ONLY works in hindsight. Rhis idea of unnessary points only works once a season is finished. Thats why as a theory it was and still is ********. And to repeat, nothing to do with Reading who are top of the league with a completely typical points tally. Utterly typical.

Because their original premise was wrong then, is wrong now and will be wrong next season.

.....Where are you chaps? Lots of mouth from you lot earlier on in the season. We only need eighty points. We only need to beat the historical average total for the team in, err, third to go up. Also lots of talk of points above that being unneccesary. If I could be arsed I would dig out some of those classic posts and some of the abuse I got. Well here we are. More than Eighty points. We've done it. You lot were pretty sodding sure earlier in the season, not a peep from you now reassuring us that we don't need any more 'unnessessary' (yes, that word was used) points. Here I am. Where are you?

Doesn't read as blase to me. Going again on Tuesday is all we can do. And why on earth is our centre back obliged to tweet the post match team talk for your benefit?

Poor old Nige is babbling a bit there. Stop saying "point of view" my old son.

Absolutely this. That's the whole point of a points cushion. As it stands we have a six point cushion on West Ham. We don't need to maintain a six point cushion for the rest of the season. We just have to finish the league above West Ham. None of you whinging tw at s would swap with West Ham now would you?

They did the business at the back and up front. It didn't happen for us. We're still going up despite what the divs on this forum are going to say about us losing the next three in a row.

You used the specific phrase "hard data" my old son. Actual sales is pretty much the only hard data there is. Everything is aimless speculative hors e s hi t from internet nut jobs like you.

You mean the hard data where we achieved nowhere near the level of season ticket sales (let alone anything like a waiting list) that would justify expansion. You are right there is plenty of data.

It's going to be absolute agony on here next season with the parade of utter dipsh it s on this forum with their "media conspiracy against Saints" routine. Anyone still saying Claridge has somethng against us after everything he's said about us this season (and the pastings he's dished out to that lot down the road) really are a waste of good oxygen. Utter, utter, utter morons.

Who did "glory glory" first? Spurs or Man U?

I think I'd rather drown. More peaceful than being burned alive.

Didn't you say automatic promotion hangs in the balance on saturday night. You suck the life and hope out of everything you touch on here so please spare us all the dressing down. You did fu ck all for the 99th anniversary, or the one before that. Or the eightieth. Or any, ever before. You don't even look like you are actually doing anything yourself this time. Self righteous empty rhetoric from one of the most negative people on here.

Southampton Football Club is part of the history of the city but that doesn't mean it needs to appropriate every other piece of history of the city. Maybe the club should turn Tudor House into a club shop, and get Kelvin and Ricky to practice penalties in the gateway of the bargate of an evening. Southampton FC has had 99 previous years to mark the passing of all those people on that boat, its a bit late for people to start complaining now.

This is a great post and sums it up beautifully. There is a lot of frothing at the mouth from the usual suspects who I suspect did naff all to commemorate the 99th, 98th or 80th, 75th or any other anniversary of this tragedy but are working themselves up in a frenzy about the club potentially ignoring it when it is being covered and marked comprehensively for anyone who wants to get involved elsewhere. The Titanic commemoration is not "remembrance" - it's a civic history event marking a convenient historical landmark, which the council are marking. Portsmouth can (and do) mark similar things relating to the Victory or the Mary Rose. It's the fabric of history, not the remembrance of anyone anyone alive actually knew. It is not required for the football club to do anything, much like the football club weren't required to send a hot air balloon up when the Balloon festival used to be on. Let the city mark the event.

My point is a hundred years ago is a remarkably long time to wait before deciding this is something a football club needs to mark. Sure the council are doing stuff but that is as much about civic history rather than "remembrance" entirely. My point is it would resemble something that Ashby parish council (or whoever) would do about Bosworth. This is not remembrance really because no one remembers. Its History and human interest, which is all good. But in that scope I don't see any obligation from the club to participate.

How come we only get to mark it once every hundred years. Was it not as important last year and is it all forgotten again in 2013? Either this is really important to the people of the city or it isn't. And I don't remember any minute silences for it before. The point is the club could do something or they could do nothing. They will do what they like. But a minutes silence seems to me ill fitting. Especially as there are no survivors left and the vast vast majority of people in the ground wont have even met a survivor. To me it's like having a minutes silence at Leicester City for the battle of Bosworth. So I have no objection for something but I fail to see how a minutes silence is the only option.

All I can remember from January David was you saying "there can be little doubt that the club will spend thirty to forty million" in the last transfer window. And funnily enough spent nowhere near that.