CB Fry

MLT works for the media as a commentator. Of course he can comment on what the hell he likes, and I remember all he said was "stick with Pardew". This is the real world, not a computer game. If Cortese can't hack the gnat's p*ss of media scrutiny in League one then he isn't cut out for British football full stop.

Quite. The references to "outside parties" in that statement is childish and worrying. Let's not forget that included in that group of "outside parties" is one Matthew Le Tissier, who Cortese has decided has no place commenting on Southampton Football Club as we learnt over the summer. Let's not forget that he is the one carrying out pointless bans that gain the club nothing. He's the bully, not the bullied. There's plenty of you who have decided that Cortese can do nothing wrong and is incapable of making an incorrect decision. Well bully for you. As far as I am concerned this season should be about Southampton Football Club trying to get promoted by winning football matches. Not Southampton Football club versus every single media outlet, the Football League, anyone who ever expresses any opinion and almost anyone that isn't Nicola Cortese. Too much energy wasted on pointless pursuits.

I have got this man to thank for my love of the phrase "fannying about". Legend.

What a load of old guff. It's a shame we can't revisit the lowe era, the wilde meltdown, the burley season post play offs, the lowe return. This forum has never been this happy clappy community you speak of.

He says from Austria. I've not noticed any infringement of my civil liberties whatsoever, at all, in any way shape or form at any point in the last twenty years. What I am not allowed to do exactly in this Orwellian Police State you seem to think we're supposed to be living in? Oh sorry, got to go. The Stazi are kicking the door down.

How is avuncular a pejorative term all of a sudden? He looks and seemed like a friendly, kindly uncle. What's to get upset about?

As far as the press photography issue goes, the only person on a stupid little crusade is Cortese. In playground parlance, "he started it". But lord knows there is enough threadage on that here already. I think we've all established our positions.

Great thread. Thanks for the "match report" Wes Tender. Tributes read well on the Echo site too. What a guy!

It's hypocrite. And it's not hypocrisy to charge for content. It would only be hypocrisy if the Sun were saying SFC should let fans in for free. Which, of course, they're not. In fact, they're not even asking for pictures for free. So that would be no hypocrisy at all there. Muppet. This is just dopey garbage. Guess what, no one thinks we'll lose games on the back of freaking photo ban. And, err, everyone here has figured out we don't have a shirt sponsor. So jolly well done on your sharp eyed satire of absolutely no one on earth.

Too early to say - the effect of the cuts made haven't been felt yet. Probably will be for the long term good but will be a lot of short term pain, and not just in the public sector. The economy has been built on an ever expanding public sector and there are many businesses built on the back of very lucrative public sector contracts - from builders to caterers to consultancy firms. Pull that rug away quickly, and that seems to be what is happening, and it will be a domino effect back into recession. Don't get me wrong, churning taxpayers money through to private companies aint no way to run a country. Just worried that fixing it this quickly might be a bit of a seismic shock for more than just a few grumbling civil servants. Beyond that, the coalition team seem competent, but Clegg and Cable keep forgetting they are in government and think they can continue to spout off responsibility-free as the Lib/SDPs have done for the last thirty years. Well chaps, you can't. You've got a country to run.

Fifth would be abject failure. We'd have the play offs to redeem but fifth would still be failure, not least for Nicola. Try your 'do tell' routine on him, sunshine.

Harsh. Cherednik was the 'main' signing, gotsmanov was the makeweight brought along to keep company. The kleber chala if you will. All three of them are all time saints legends.

That's a link to an earlier thread. What's new that you need to start a different one?

My thread was about the Steve Coppell that was heavily linked with Southampton football club as manager not that long ago, and much speculated about on this particular forum as a DOF subsequently. That Steve Coppell. That Southampton football club. Heard of them?

Not really - that role is nothing like the Director of Football role that Lawrie Mac carried out alongside Ball, Merrington and Souness, which was to sit on the board, be a link from boardroom to training ground, be a sounding board for the manager, and negotiate player transfers and contracts for the first team. Coppell might want to do a job like that, Pardew may want someone to take on some of that workload, and maybe more importantly Cortese might still want a DoF in that mould. I'm not even saying I want it to happen but it is a role that could come about. Les Reed is an irrelevence in that scenario.

Video is excellent, and him holding up the mosiac was a real heart strings moment. Well done Saints.

Appreciate most want to talk about more important matters, and quite right. But still surprised not to see a thread on Coppell here today. Has shown a couple of times he's a far better manager as an underdog working to low expectation (Reading, Palace) rather than in a position where success is expected and pressure is higher (Man City, Bristol). Kind of suggests he may not have been the man to take on the immense pressure that comes with getting Saints into the Championship pretty damn quick and may also explain why he didn't end up coming in the first place. That said, we may still be planning to employ a DoF (I think that hasn't been ruled out yet). Pards of course played for SC who I think would be a pretty benign, but wise and experienced DoF. And SC's statement specifically mentioned retiring from "management" rather than football entirely. In the fullness of time, of course, could be a nice little development.

I only caught the end of it - was it me or where names coming up before the balls had been drawn. I know there was seeding but how did they decide the home and away stuff - Saints seemed to come up as a home draw before anyone had pulled a ball out. I obviously missed something - can anyone elighten?

Yawn. Bolton.

That's a nice idea.

That's a bit of a churlish comment, of course they are going to be sensible and respectful reporting on a story like this.

I think we need a significant period of reflection before the club makes any decision on this kind of long term tribute. Let's get on with the immediate memoriums first at the next game and some kind of fomal ceremony after that. For all we know his family may not want or think appropriate for a stand to be named after him or have a statue put up. My personal preference would be for something a little more community focused - a Leibherr foundation supporting our city's budding young sportsmen, or inner city/disabled/disadantaged kids. I think Markus stood for legacy and would be good to see him remembered like that. I'm not comfortable with him having the same standing as Ted Bates, purely because the time he spent with us is just not long enough. Ted Bates got the statue for many reasons, but one of them was simply sheer dedication and length of service which no one else is ever likely to replicate. But this is all far to contentious to debate sensibly today.

Dream on, you plank. It's not the NMA, it's the National Readership Survey, and alongside the ABC audit is as rigourous a measure of media consumption as you'll find. Certainly far more rigourous than TV and Radio audience research. ABC figures are a good guide to how newspapers are performing themselves, but advertisers and media buying agencies are more interested in readers, because ads are all about reaching people not newspaper buyers. Sorry, I do know about these things, not much but enough and clearly more than you. The 2.6 thing is pretty true, your sample of one is just as lame as me saying that the Guardian I buy twice a week is read by three people each time. I don't know what the factor is for each individual paper but it a lot bigger than 0.6 readers per copy. Papers get passed round families and workplaces every day. There's a copy of the Times in my office that is read by at least 15 people ever day. Rule of thumb is two-and-a-half. It's not fallacy, get over it. Any way, I haven't fallen for any bloody PR, it relates to my previous employment (Press Circulation) and my current employment (FMCG Brand Marketing). So I know what I'm talking about. Anyway, I don't want to bicker as our owner has just passed on so let's leave it there.

Stunned. This, and the sad death of young Stansfield, shows that neither youth nor wealth can help you when the day comes. Very very sad. Just a shame from a Saints point of view that he now won't see us finish the job and take the club back to the top division, the ascent he kickstarted barely a year ago.

LOL. Got to love this forum, populated with people who are thick as pigsh it. God bless you all. Readership figures are not "PR" they are managed by the national readership survey which is a joint venture between the papers, the media buyers and the advertisers themselves with equal representation of all three in the management of the figures. And here's a clue - two of those three parties have a vested interest in making sure the other party don't fudge the figures. Because it saves them money on advertising and makes their ad campaigns more effective. But you carry on living in your dopey conspiracy land where everything is "PR"...... And readership is not the same as circulation, because as demonstrated below, papers aren't bought and read by a single person... most papers are read, on average by something like 2.4 to 2.8 people. Papers like the Sun tend to be higher than the broadsheets as they get passed round a bit more. And you mention bulk and freebie copies but they are very rare these days, especially on the Sun which has never relied on them particularly. And anyway, it's not much more of a fudge than attendence figures counted even when season ticket holders stay at home. Bulk papers are still read, and adverts are seen, and there are very, very strict rules about how many bulks can be claimed in a period too. So readership of the sun is not "nowhere near 8m" Buctootim, it is very near 8m, 7.7m at last count, with more ABC1s than any other paper except the Mail. But everyfink is a PR conspiracy aint it. Thank got we've got the official site, the only place on earth reporting information with no agenda whatsover. Christ.