CB Fry

Nice. It's an internet forum. No one is "speaking" for "anyone". At the end of the day there are too many chips on too many shoulders in the public sector and the moaning about how hard up they are is a bit tiresome, especially at the end of a decade of unprecedented investment into the public sector that is going to come to a serious, grinding, miserable halt from about May next year. You've had your best years. You've had investment upon investment. That's it. And still the moaning came. Under the Tories it is going to be misery out there for the publuc sector. As my old mum used to say "you lot don't know you're born". Get ready for the pinch.

Eh? You can't get your head round how opinions and ideas develop over time in response to events/circumstance/context? I form an opinion ten years ago and then that's it for life? Is that how you live? I can't remember whether you're one of the teachers on this thread but god help our kids if you are because I think you're a bit simple. It was right to improve pay and conditions for the public sector, but when you see strikes, threats of strikes and we're-so-hard-done-by not long after those improvements then that's its right to question what exactly is going on here.

Don't be silly. Barnes was an awful appointment from day one. Or do you seriously think if he'd been given three years he'd magic into Alex Ferguson?

You're all right. If we are significantly adrift at Christmas and we continue to accrue points at a rate of one per game then Pardew will be under significant pressure and the prospect of him being sacked is a realistic one, not least because he can hardly say he hasn't been given the resources to do the job better than that. So he does have until Christmas to "prove himself", if you like. But the comparison to Norwich, Tranmere and Wycombe "reacting" is spurious - we have "reacted" - we dumped Wotte, and we've let Pardew build an impressive backroom staff, and snap up some of the best talent available at our level. We are "reacting". Pardew is "reacting". We'll win tonight. We're going in the right direction. But the improvement on the first ten games does need to be marked from here on in.

Well, yeah, actually he would. Richard Scudamore would probably be maximum three telephone calls away from finding out the background of any British based Millionaire. Easy. Probably three phone calls from finding out the background of any European based millionaire.

Putting Ali Dia in any list really is pretty lazy journalism. Oh, and they've wheeled out Marco Boogers as well. Groundbreaking stuff!

How many threads are you going to start patting yourself on the back for being the most perfectest Saints fan in the world? Stop vastly exaggerating the "Pardew out" campaign (which is about one grade up from non-existant) just to feel smug about yourself.

How was he screwed by the board - the parachute payments had finished. We didn't have any more money. As a chief Lowe/prudence cheerleader not sure how you equate sensible budgeting (which in retrospect weren't even that sensible) with "being screwed". So you are quite happy that your hero "lost interest" because he couldn't continue to spend millions and millions and millions and millions we didn't have in the transfer market. Burley loses interest, but I believe he was still getting a hefty salary from Southampton Football Club in that time. That's the type of manager you consider one of our very best? What utter tripe you post on here.

Sadoldgit making stuff up again shock Sadoldgit making stuff up just to cast himself as Britains greatest Saints fan Go figure.

I think AT was sold to Norwich rather than him actively looking to move - Nicholl I think, didn't rate him. He's a pretty good broadcaster now. And Clips of the week is the best five minutes radio on any station anywhere every week. And H and J don't really do many stupid quizzes anymore, but when they did they were brilliant, especially the Escalado wind-up horse racing one. I thought Durham and Wrighty gave a really entertaining show, but now it's back to being drivel with Goughy/Fat Mick Quinn/Alvin Martin etc.

Since 1997 teachers and other public sector workers have had significant payrises, and inflation busting pay rises. Funnilly enough, I supported them. It's a fact, jack. It's when they threaten strike action the very second that looks like it might end that makes me, and most tax payers, pretty pig sick.

It's a link that references profligate spending in the public sector, which is what I am talking about in the sentences before I pasted the link. You can read, right?

Oh behave. Civil service whiners are convinced that "everyone else" gets overtime (as seen in this thread from some deluded teech) "everyone else" gets a pay rise every single year without fail, that "everyone else" doesn't work nearly as hard as they do. Oh no, the tories are threatening a pay freeze for one. sodding. year. after over a decade of eye watering pay rises year in, year out: the threats of strikes are coming already. Absolute joke, you should be grateful to have a bloody job. "Everyone else" doesn't get a pay rise as a matter of course, as a matter of right like our blessed civil service think they should have no questions asked. "Everyone else" doesn't threaten to strike and **** everyone's working and daily lives up the minute the govt doesn't lay down and lavish them with cash like the ever-so-useful Postmen, or the greedy ku nting tube drivers led by greedy parasites like Bob Crow face down in the trough. Inflation busting payrise after inflation busting payrise. That's a gravy train. And as for accountability, the despicable lack of accountability or any attempt to manage public money is rife across the whole public service. Idiots who spend £35,000 on one photocopier because they are sitting on pots and pots of cash and have no grasp of "best value" whatsover. That's a gravy train. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/8276991.stm

He gave us £7.25m for Kevin Davies. As I remember they went on a miserable run at the end of his first season, which then carried on into the new season and he was sacked, probably prematurely, quite early into that season.

We will definitely win on penalties. Piece of p*ss.

Who the hell gets "overtime" apart from factory shift workers and people that work in a shop? Another teacher in zero knowlege of the real world and convinced, as ever, that no one has it as tough as them. Diddums. I work from home and am at it all hours and dragged off round the country for god knows what. Workers in the private sector have it tens times harder than any teacher anywhere, not least because they aren't unionised to the eyeballs and have the cushiest pension this side of Fred Godwin. I'm sure you'll get over it during your six weeks holiday next summer.

This is slightly ambitious. Currently fifth from bottom are on 11 points, a point per game. Assuming the fifth from bottom team continues to accrue a measly point per game.... We need Championship Winning form (2 points per game) over the next ten games to overtake fifth from bottom. After we play our 21st game of the season (home v Tranmere, 12th December) and have maintained two points per game, then we will overtake fifth from bottom at that point. (Saints 22 points, fifth bottom 21 points). So with Championship winning form we'll be out of the drop zone with one game to spare before Christmas. Not quite getting to mid table by Christmas. It's a long slog.

Yes, we are the Chelsea of this league, and yes we should be delivering championship-winning form (2 points per game) pretty soon. Not sure Chelsea fans, if they had won one game in ten would be lauding that form as you did on this forum in the last week or so. And Chelsea wouldn't be taking the performance of a relegation plagued struggling club (SFC early 2000s) as their benchmark as you did. So its easy to rabble rouse about how we need to be positive, but when you are lauding one win in ten as some magnificent triumph we shouldn't dare complain about it doesn't quite ring true. You want to win every single game and get all Churchillian about it, but shrug shoulders "never mind" at one win in ten. Not sure that's quite the mindset of Alex Ferguson et al you claim to be exclusively channelling on here. Make your mind up.

Don't understand this "swing" thing you've mentioned a couple of times. Yes Gillingham can never now get three points away from home against us this season, but so what? They can win lots of other games where we have no say in the result at all. Six pointers count between small groups at the top or bottom of a league, or in the closing stages of a season, but you can't apply that theory across every single club over three quarters of a season. Anyway, it is possible to make the play offs, but following the appalling start we've had (which you were raving about as Strachan-esque) it is now very very unlikely. We should have knocked off the ten points by September - that was possible/come on we can do it/we just have to believe/get behind the lads/etc/etc/etc - but we didn't. Anyway, Quite frankly I think you've underplayed things - why aren't we going to win the league outright? There's still 105 points to play for and who says we can't win every single game from here on in? Anyone who says we can't do it is a rubbish negative saints fan. You disgust me with your lame negative "let's scrape the playoffs" whining. We should be winning the league. Get a backbone man.

That's exactly what I said at the start of the season. The fact that we've spent the first quarter of the season in relegation form is reason enough to change that view. Play-offs now are highly unlikely - we need Championship winning form from here on in. Not one win and four draws in five and "aren't we doing well". Two points per game average for the rest of the season, and even that might not be enough. And finally, just for Le God - after our fine win yesterday we are now....wait for it.............still 16 points off the play offs. Someone forgot to tell the rest of the league to stand still while we win...

It's an "as it stands" table.

In ten games time the play off teams will have about 32 points - thats on a pretty conservative 1.5 points a game. So even if we win the next ten games in a row we still wouldn't be in the top six. A highly ambitious 2 points per game (Championship winning form) for the rest of the season from now would see us maybe, maybe scrape the play offs, some seasons 71 points has been enough. But that's Championship winning form. You need to get your story straight, Le God. The other day you were saying how fantastic Pardew was doing because it compared to Strachan's early performance for a relegation-plagued Southampton in 2000 when we were one of the lowest spending teams in the division. When in this league we are the highest spending teams by a mile and you benchmark us against perennial relegation strugglers. And now we're aiming for the playoffs?? Make your mind up.

Ponty isn't and doesn't want to be a teacher so is well within his rights to use "yeah", especially as we're on a forum here and no-one is teaching kids anything via Saints Web. Expecting people not to use the word "yeah" is a forlorn hope these days. And I prefer to be more specific on the "enough..already" line - it's a lovely New York Jewish turn of phrase and I make no apologies for using it. It certainly isn't "wrong". That's the beauty of English - there's loads of it around, ever evolving, expanding, growing and even eating itself. That's the kind of thing teachers should be inspiring our kids with instead of bellyaching about being asked to act like adults with a profession, whining about how only they do any work in Britain (work weekends? finish at 6pm? gosh) and on the scrounge for the next free day off they can get off in the name of we're-hard-done-by industrial action. And the lad defending teachers posted a grammatical bombsite which is hardly a glowing endorsement of these working-till-six-in-the-evening superheroes, is it?

He was saints for barely a year, so cannot be described as one of our most successful manager, he was a glorified caretaker. And he was a miserable failure everywhere else, excluding Swindon, when he had Glenn Hoddle the player to pick in his team. Weirdo.

It's called dinlow Hubris and you're king div. You posted all those rumours to wind us up and we're using the same stuff to wind you up again. Its only the fact you take yourself so incredibly seriously that you don't get that. Christ, you aint no guru on all things Portsmouth. Just a plank obsessed with posting on a Saints forum day in day out. And we're laughing at you.