CB Fry

Since when was thirty quid fifty quid?

More likely than us playing at stoneham which never happened and never did happen. And its a thread called Five Year Plan not "imagine the last twelve years as if we were playing at Stoneham". Any chance you're going to answer my hypothetical?

Since when was thirty quid fifty quid?

Not really two of those games would likely be on Sky or ESPN. There is also a recession on.

Not going answer mine then? I've answered your question about Stoneham. We don't play at Stoneham.

How about we deal in reality. I've done your hypothetical. Or lets just hypothetical each other to death. What if Cortese announces a flat £50 per ticket for man woman and child next season. We average 27k as a result. We sell out twice. Following season we average 27k again at 55 quid a ticket. Then do we need 40,000 seats? See. Pointless hypotheticals.

That is an appalling question. In a stadium that size 19k would be maxing out so I would support expansion. The max out level at SMS would be something like 25k which I am pretty sure we haven't done yet. Terrible question but there's your answer.

Remind me. I'm on tapatalk and the posts aren't numbered.

Funny that every club in Britain doesn't announce a major expansion plan after every time they sell out then isn't it?

You suggested we didn't have one because they weren't compulsory, rather than the fact we don't have a significant volume of fans wanting a ST who can't get one.

Any news on what a "compulsory waiting list" is by the way? You've had a day or so to work up an answer.

No. We have no waiting list so no concrete case to expand. That is based on fact. Yours are based on assumptions.

No he doesn't. For someone so teethgrindingly pedantic you make hell of a lot of completely baseless assumptions. Kind of pis s es on your already pathetic credibility.

I'd love you to find anyone saying anything remotely like this on this forum. Fu cking drama queens.

Maybe Everton in the Premier League in 2012 is not the same as Saints in 2005.....? You pick apart everyone elses but sling together your own random like-for-likes like a kleptomaniac in Harrods at midnight.

This is fair enough. Not the same as we need more seats now because we sold out against Bolton eight years ago. I also worry that having CL on a mission statement leads to over investment in players that the club on its own terms cannot afford. I wouldn't have Champions League on any mission statement. I'd say as high as possible in the Premier League every season. That gives you scope to do an Everton (maybe Newcastle) but just avoids doing a Leeds or a Pompey. It's an important mindset shift for me. We mustn't chase and chase. That way leads only to panic buying Joey Barton. Fulham, Stoke and Boro have had good runs in Europe on lower attendances than us, so lets remind those ungrateful enough to belittle our fantastic stadium that it is more than fit for purpose right now.

In what way is Adkins a maverick? Paul Sturrock was ten times the maverick Adkins is and Strachan was something of a nutcase too. Say what you like about Lowe but Adkins would be a perfect Lowe appointment, as would the likes of Brendan Rodgers and especially Brian McDermott, the perfect example of promoting from within, the Wigley done good. Pardew would be less of a fit but Lowe did appoint 'Arry.

8,000 regular fans is a lot. That kind of number would have manifested itself in the form of a) a waiting list last time out and b) 30,000 avg gates in the championship. This thread is over. Read the rest of it as its all been done.

What the f u ck?

Not me. Next.

Its the magic number because expanding will cost a lot of money that will take a long time to recoup even if we sell out. This is not a computer game where we can just decide how big the ground needs to be on a whim. We can plan what we like but we need to show consistent levels of demand to justify it. Cortese will be doing just that.

That doesn't represent my views whatsoever but one point for effort. We had demand for tickets that significantly outstripped supply and St Mary's was a great move. Even in our strongest Prem season we got nowhere near the benchmark of season ticket sales required to trigger consideration of expansion. We have no evidence whatsoever that we need to expand St Mary's. No waiting list and no signifcant demand beyond what we can supply. We will sell out most weeks next year which is a start but not evidence of excessive demand. I love my football club and don't waste energy grizzling like a spoilt four year old because the bull dozers haven't moved in on a stadium that averaged 26,000odd during one of the most exciting seasons of all of our lifetimes.

...because Saints for people in Basingstoke and Weymouth just isn't a local team. There being not many other clubs around does not make Saints more local. There is a reason they haven't all come down in their thousands when we were a pretty successful and secure top flight team. Wes Tender and the rest of the freaks hate it. But it is a stone cold fact.

Guess what. Nottingham has a gigantic student population. Guess what. Southampton has had loads of students for many, many years. Didn't get us many more fans than Forest or Derby in the NPC though did it. I won't bother inferring that because you tell me I can't possibly know what people in Weymouth are thinking that you must know PRECISELY what people in Weymouth are thinking. And by jiminy. It's....."lets wait until Saints are in the Champions League. And the ground holds 40,000. And the club have brought in a Easyjet ticketing policy where brand new fans from Dorset only pay a tenner. Then, and only then will we start piling into St Mary's" Glad you're so sure.

Because I was born in, grew up in, and all my family are from and still live in, Southampton. Just need 10,000 more like me - but who currently have no interest in Saints at all - and you're on to something. And I don't have an encyclopedic knowledge of anything. Just some perspective and a grasp of reality.