CB Fry

Excelsior Mouscron is an interesting case, surprised I hadn't heard of it before now. Basically - skint, kicked out of league. The Mouscron badge should be the symbol for all Saints fans that would find it quite funny to see that tawdry, crooked little club down the road chucked down a league or two. And handily, the badge is red and white.

That's a bit rich coming from someone who claimed the initial BBC report on the winding up order was from a "hoax website". Not sure you are in any position to claim anyone else "hasn't got a clue". It's not the first time you've been stone-cold wrong recently.

Must be a different Southampton Football Club that spent decades looking for a new ground, or submitting plan after plan for extending the Dell, including expanding over Archer's Road and tunnelling underneath it etc. We'd been trying for decades. Stoneham was an utter crock of shi te and the best thing that ever happened to Saints was not getting that glorified portacabin nowhere near the sodding city. It's only the swivel-eyed every-single-thing-Lowe-ever-did-was-wrong bellends like Richmond who bleat on about Stoneham being our true spiritual home and what a tragedy we're not playing to packed houses of 25,000 there.

Don't fall over yourself to watch it. I didn't see the whole prog but I think Matty was only on for one spot, saying something about cracker jokes. So you get about a minute of Le Tiss in an hour.

Le Tissier had genuine opportunities to go to Liverpool, Man United, Spurs and Chelsea during his career and didn't go. And this is while he was playing for us in perpetual relegation battles in front of 15,000 fans in a toilet stadium. We're bigger than the league we are in now, in fact we're bigger than most now, but in the terms Xavi is talking about we were/are a small club. Fair play to him though, high praise indeed. PS - anyone else see Le Tiss on the Grumpy Old Men Christmas Show last night? LOL.

Neither is rain, and neither is sweltering sun. I wonder if you could forward a list of the five weekends you have earmarked that we have your permission to play football in?

Nice message NC. The usual one eyed self justifying drivel from the king of guff, sadoldgit? Still making up opinions never displayed here (ever) and knocking them down to make a pi s s weak point? Oh yes he is. Happy t w a tt y christmas.

Eh? Simon Cowell is not Brian Epstein, he's Hughie Green mixed with Jack Cohen. And Joe v Rage is nothing like Blur vs Oasis, which was actually about which band/song you liked. Joe v Rage is one lot of sheep buying some dross dirge single becuase they've been engrossed in a TV show for four months and another lot of sheep buying some dreadful production line yank-jock-rock dross for the sake of an internet campaign against "the man" or something. Nothing like the Beatles and the Stones, or Blur v Oasis or even East17 v Take That or Duran Duran v Spandau, all of which were people passionate about music and performers. Just one lot of tw ats not bothered about music versus another lot of tw ats not bothered about music.

As someone who lived in Shirley for twenty odd years and used to work in the greengrocers on the high street at 5:30am every morning as a nipper I can can say it got cold, but not that cold. Don't be silly. We live in a temperate climate and it is rarely this cold before Christmas. And god knows when there was 12 inches of snow in Shirley, but certainly not in the last thirty years, suggesting it isn't a regular occurance. And how many games have ever been called off at SMS due to the cold? I think it might be two, but it's probably one, and that was for actual real snow.

How does a Winter Break benefit "the fans"? Four weeks without any football in the middle of the season. That is rubbish for the fans. The fans WANT TO WATCH FOOTBALL ON BOXING DAY. That's why the grounds are packed. Stopping that is not "thinking of the fans", it's sticking two fingers up at the fans. Christ. I'm a fan and I think the idea of a winter break in a temperate climate like ours is total nonsense. Note this is being supported by fans that live in errrrrr Sweden, and Dubai. So presumably not bothered to go to the football on Boxing day for several years. So leave off the preaching and keep your noses out of British working class culture.

And neither do you, despite peppering this thread with assumptions left right and centre. The facts are the club have banned the Echo for the first time in 120 years for publishing a good news story about developing the training ground. There are no more "ins and outs" to look at. I would love to hear what you think the "ins and outs" could possibly be, and why those "ins and outs" could justify the action of banning the local paper for the first time in 120 for something completely innoculous. Maybe the Editor has run over Cortese's wife on purpose? Or on of the reporters has ****ged Cortese's mum? Come on, give us an idea.

Even more LOLtastic stuff. I understood perfectly your previous post, and it was hilarious. Why would there be "a legal obligation" for a football club to give information to a local paper. Why on earth would there be? It's just hilarious you are turning to the law. Hilarious. Not sure why it is the people saying "this is a very odd decision by the club to ban the local paper after 120 years over something that seems completely and utterly innoculous" are the people "going off at the deep end" while those screaming "fc uk the Echo, there's no law against it" (again LOL LOL LOL) are pretending to be the level headed ones. Of all the things that have happened to the club in the last one hundred and twenty years do you really think that an argument about a press release is the most appropriate event to facilitate the club banning the local paper? Don't you think the club, maybe, are the ones in your words "making too much of it". Maybe? Yeah, I'm really off at the deep end, me. Bonkers. Loopy.

LOL. Talk about take the bait*. No-one apart from the windup merchants on this forum think it was a draw and no-one apart from the windup merchants are making out they are sat in the pub saying we didn't win. So lawd knows why you and others feel the need to spout this obviousness. But the technical answer is the match last night finished in a draw and the tie was decided on penalties. That's why the final score wasn't 9-7 and the goals Lambert and all the other penalty scorers won't count in their tally for the season. Because the match finished 2-2. It's on the official site, and the BBC and, well, everysoddingwhere. 2-2. But for the obvious brigade, we won last night. Thanks for telling us. Over and over again, in different shades of the blinkin obvious. Please, can people get over it.

Why, what have the Echo done, exactly? I thought we only had "one side of the story"? Surely the perspective is needed at club level. It was a press release about developing the training ground. It's not Watergate. And, again, as we've only had "one side of the story" what exactly have the Echo done, because you don't know either. The only histrionics are coming from you, love ranting on about "there's no law against it". Absolutely LOLtastic.

Penalties are brilliant entertainment too. I could watch a penalty shoot out between any two teams anytime anywhere. Just lovely.

Twas a good interview. This is not a man who is going to settle for "just staying up" as some were trying to make out earlier on in the season. Promotion is on for this season, and I get the feeling we will add one or two significant names to the squad in Jan. Still needs to make up with the Echo though (but use the other thread for that one).

Yes, we won, but on Penalties. The match finished 2-2, which is a draw. If in doubt just ask yourself - will Lambert's penalty count on his end of season tally? No. Because Penalty shoot-outs are a mechanism to decide cup ties. They aren't part of a football match. If they were we'd have them in every single game. But did we win tonight - HELL YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

What an absolutely fantastic drawn game.

Antonio "just nobbed it into the space" according to Merrington.

Well done Norwich on scoring at the precise moment I found the dates of the area final legs and thought, yeah, I can make it to MK then. Arse.

Yeah, the Ugly Inside website is just brilliant. Blimey. At the end of the day that site is populated by spanners like us, and I think there is plenty of that in the world already. And thousands and thousands of people never, ever, ever go on forums, which was my other main point. They have lives. *You did tell people to go to cybercafes though....

Apologies Wes, I have reread your piece, I misread it. But you are still wrong. Not sure I want to live in a world where the Echo refuse to publish a story about a player drink driving in fear of upsetting the club or the player. So the Echo should ignore wife beating or drink driving and just publish stuff about Dog-walking family men. I beleive there was quite a bit of comment about BWP on this forum and people "loved it". As did the fans singing songs about it. Maybe that was just my imagination. Good-oh.

Remind me what other sites are producing new written content about Saints at the same frequency as the Echo? If by "independent view" you mean "no interest whatsoever" then yes, I agree the national press and TV stations really do have an "independent view" about Saints. As I said before "I've got an Iphone, everyone can fu ck off down a cybercafe" is not a particularly mature approach, but that seems to be your stance. And I best two parts of eff-all of the fan base sat and watched that Wycombe Game in full. And sticking up video content is not exactly challenging, or difficult. It's the other stuff that no-one else can be arsed to do, and it is only the Echo that wants to do it.

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Astoundingly good post. Great stuff. Some of the more clueless contributors to the thread should heed this. Excellent analysis. Don't disagree with most of Nick's post, but it's worth pointing out this "preferential treatment" runs to information that really no other media organisation actually want. There are some delusionals in the "f*ck the Echo" camp who seem to think that you can find on "freeview" an interview with a key player/manager/coach at the club every single day, or a summary of how we are doing in context to previous seasons, or opinions of ex-players etc. Or simply new stuff to read about Saints. Every day. When exactly are SSN going to broadcast an interview with, say Graham Murty today, or Adam Lallana tomorrow, or Kelvin Davies next week, or Alan Pardew three times a week? And for the "what about the internet" chaps, well what about it? How often is the BBC or Sky websites updated with anything other than facts or brief post-match reports/quotes dropped in by the jobbing PA hack. Anyone only has to look at the reams of comment on every Saints article on their website to see the interest and community served. Plus all the other thousands upon thousands of fans who have no interest in internet message boards. The Echo does stuff that no-one else does or frankly can be arsed to do. Not Sky. Not the BBC. Not "Freeview". No one. And no, I don't want to be spoon fed tedium from the official site. So people saying "it's all on freeview" or "you can go down the cybercafe" doesn't help things. People need a bit of perspective. New stuff to read about Saints. Every day. What a bunts of c**ts the Echo are, eh?