St Landrew

OK, if it makes you feel better.

I'm sure there are more than one, mate.

Love all these suggestions. The bloke has a week off and wants some cheap winter sun. He's talking about warm locations nearby. The nearest will be Portugal, but it probably won't be warm enough in Feb. Neither will Malta, but you never know with that place. .Comsaint's suggestion is probably as near and cheap as you'll get, and certainly warm enough. Might be windy though.

Lock's Heath..? Blimey, you're the other side of the River Hamble and halfway to Fareham. I've never called that Southampton.

Well, we now have our paper thin coating on minor roads and paths in Southampton. With a bit of luck that'll freeze, and then we can be ready for some proper snow. If it ever happens, which I doubt, as it has stopped again. No doubt the rest of the country is knee deep in the stuff.

Yeah, that was it. Were you feet up..? I'm sometimes tempted to put my feet down, but my balance is better feet up. so I don't do it. And there's always putting the feet down at the last moment, to save yourself.

That light sleet has stopped in Southampton. Oh well, that's it for another year.

Of all the U.S. fast food joints, at least KFC, at its best is bloody delicious. But then again, it never is at its best anymore, so it can bugger off back over the pond with the rest of the McDonalds, Burger King, PizzaHut, whatever, rubbish, as far as I'm concerned.

Ta, nice one. But I'd have to turn back as soon as I got near Winchester, where I'm sure the snow will be everywhere as it is predicted to be. I've decided this thread subject is worthy of a poll, so here goes.

Bit of light sleet in Southampton at present. Totally boring unless it freezes.

I'm just out of bread and milk.The corner shop is going to get some business from me.

Remind me where there is ..?

True Steve. Late, the other night I came away from a friend's house on my VFR. I went round a corner, steering, hardly leaning, and applied some power, and the back end stepped right out. Actually, I enjoyed it at the time, but I was ever so careful after that.

MB, if this was any other place in the world I'd take your word for there being snow. But this is Southampton. It can snow everywhere else and we won't get a single flake, whether we've been forecast it or not. In truth, we'll probably get a light dusting, no more, and I can't be bothered with that. Well I'm blowed, I think it's drizzling. I'm no killjoy. I love deep snow. I've just seen too many false alarms, about it falling on Southampton, in my lifetime. I'll cross my fingers and hope I'm wrong..!

I did mean to find some commentating gaffs on Youtube, but I found this instead: The Youtube caption says destroys. Although Motson is his usual wormy self, I don't think Brian does, but Cloughie was a total gem. That's why I've posted it.

That'll be the day.

As people have said, the island is not one for those who like beaches and such, as it's a bit thin on sandy bays. But it is an interesting place and certainly very sunny and warm. I did a trip during late Feb - early March of 1995, doing researches into ground water [or the lack of it] with my university, staying in the Panorama Hotel in Melieha Bay, and it was scorchingly hot, so no worries there. Valetta is also a very nice historic capital, and there is always Gozo to visit by ferry too. You can easily forget the Popeye Village, although kids would love it. There's always Crete, though that may be a tad expensive as a supposed cheap, short break.

It's amazing how you stumble across things and find coincidences. I was looking at some digital text on Freeview earlier, when I saw DJ Danny Baker interviewing Elton John [part of which is on the BBC Sport website]. In it he mentioned EJ's dad's brother, former footballer Roy Dwight, who played for Fulham alongside Jimmy Hill, Johnny Haynes, Bedford Jezzard [brilliant name], and other notables. So I went to find Roy Dwight on Wikipedia, and sure enough he was there. There was also a Youtube link to him on a MOTD programme being shown on Australian TV, as well. In it, he was being interviewed by Jimmy Hill [yes, his former teammate] as team manager of Tooting and Mitcham. But there were a few other interesting bits about the clip. They showed the contesting players for Goal Of The Month [it was 1975-76 or 1976-77] and the top two contesting goals were from Peter Osgood and Nick Holmes, both of Saints, at the time. Denis Law was the adjudicator, so of course, they came nowhere. But I did have a well, I'm blowed... moment. And why is Tooting & Mitcham significant..? Just happens to be a former club of Michail Antonio. It's all wheels within wheels stuff.

Any chance of Youtubing them..?

Yes, I am aware of those people SOG. But like everything else, it isn't always cut and dried. I find middle lane hoggers to be a bit of a nuisance, but not the evil beasts people seem to view them as. The swervers who suddenly change lanes with little or no indication, forethought or checking, are a far more dangerous proposition, as far as I'm concerned. Yet you hear very little about them, and as far as I can see, haven't even been mentioned on this thread, except by me; twice now. In a sense, it is behaviour or conditions that can't be predicted, which is what really causes accidents. I can predict what a middle lane hogger will do. As for speed on the road, if we're to have a serious, or semi-serious discussion about road safety, then we must qualify the parameters we are talking about.

I never discuss anything nowadays when ordered to discuss. It's a throwback to exam papers. However, where are ManU when ITV need them..?

Britains motorways were obviously designed at a time when they didn't forsee quite as much traffic as runs on them today. It means that rules like no undertaking are not so much allowed, as just about tolerated. By the same token, the second and third lanes have become occasional main driving lanes, rather than merely for overtaking, purely because of the volume of traffic on the road. The little argument that persists about hogging the middle always amuses me. I will hog the middle lane, as people like to say, but only when the occasion allows it. By that I mean on such occasions where I'm not making the slightest difference to other car drivers, or when there are practically no drivers on the motorway; yes, believe it or not, it does happen - say in the early or overnight hours. I find that driving in the middle lane is the safest place to be if there is a sudden emergency, or accident in front of me. By being in the middle of the road, in a car, I increase my chances of escape. Once traffic increases or conditions don't permit me my indulgence, I immediately change to the appropriate lane. You can spot a modern, inexperienced, law abiding driver on the motorway, in their overly zealous need to keep in the left hand lane, whether or not it is safe to be there. Many's the time I have seen people doing around 70 in the left hand lane, and then pulling really hard across into the middle and right hand lanes to overtake, then hard back into the left hand lane. That may well be legal, but it is extremely poor driving, and actually very dangerous, because of the forces they are putting into the vehicle; and it smacks of a poor understanding of driving within he bounds of road safety and the letter of the law. Yes, speed kills. But if everyone does the same speed then nobody dies, so it is an oversimplified phrase. It is the differences in speed, skill, visibility, road, vehicle and driver condition, and weather variability which actually does it. Plus, we encounter differences in attitude. Drivers often do not have sufficient respect for other road users. Inevitably, accidents happen, and it is all very well having a laugh on Youtube [i don't, by the way] watching someone seriously injured, or maybe actually dying, and commenting... what an idiot, or he deserved that, the pr!ck, or some such glib phrase. But turn the tables, and ask what if it happened to you..? Would you wish your peers to condemn you for something that might have been the tiniest error, which you paid for with your life..? Indeed not. Where possible, try giving a little more space, a little more patience, a little more respect, a little quickness to anger, and perhaps a litle more attention to your own driving habits. None of us are perfect.

Don't know if anyone else has mentioned it, but it is slightly refreshing that Saints are out there, with their feelers into the market from day one, rather than in years past whereby we'd pick up whoever was left out of the alsorans. By the way, I don't include Rickie Lambert's transfer in that category. We were just unavoidably late in getting ourselves sorted in pre-season.

There is nowadays, a condition amongst drivers, who seem to think that if of them are in line astern, on a busy road, then that is grounds for a traffic jam. And they seem to do their upmost to make it happen. I have now reached a stage in my life where I cannot watch other road users screw up because they are busy taking a call, or texting, or changing the CD, or radio channel. I've decided that I'm not going to spend my journeys sitting in my car waiting for people to sort themselves out anymore, and instead, I'm going to make every journey I can on my bike. Take it as my contribution to having one less car of the road.

An episode of The Navy Lark: Son Of A Sea Lord. Quite funny too.