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Methinks you're getting the two initiatives confused.

Nope. All results are expunged. Would imagine one less team would go down (and probably replicate this throughout the next two divisions and maybe an extra team up from the COnference??)

Didn't they move the goalposts 5/6 months ago??? I was under the impression the overdraft was reduced by £1m back in early October. If we were OK to meet their £5m overdraft limit, then I would have thought it was not beyond the realms of man to bring in £1m in those intervening months (even if it meant selling some talent in January).

Looming at Wotte's CV would suggest he doesn't relly do "long term".

It is indeed, but I would also say that appointing sht managers in the frst place is an even bigger recipe for disaster.

Were you saying the same in Oct/Nov 2004 and Dec/Jan 2009????

Try this http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/index.php?page_id=11638

Of course dear Troll, of course. You've been making it up as you've gone along since saying it was your first post on a forum back in January:smt119:rolleyes: Trouble is, you're not bright enough to keep the cover story running and it didn't take long before finding out about your multiple personas. Why have you had so many??? Did you get banned under all the others or does Scooby's performance art thingy have a much wider audience than we all thought???

Would I have to kiss all of your multiple personas??? Could take quite a while Troll boy.

It all depends on whether you're going to do a mass PM again;) Some of the things you said weren't very nice, but we all had a giggle about it. Just what made you send those PM's LMFAO?????

Given all your multiple personas and different names, you could collect hundreds on your own. There must be at least 14 of you LOL:smt119:smt119:smt119:smt119

Oi cheeky, you knew my name three moths ago, you knew it under all your previous guises so why be shy now LMFAO.:smt119:smt119:cool: You're a troll, simple as that. How about this before we even mentoined UM, Daren, Justin Fashanu and the Itchen South incident :smt119:smt1198-[ Apparently, back in January you hadn't posted before:smt030:smt117:smt117:---)

Not sure if he's been unbanned yet after the silver coins episode at the AGM

You're probably right, but we can still live in hope. You never know, a good home win and Forest, Norwich & Barnsley losing tomorrow and it's all to play for again!!!!! I agree the odds are stacked against us, two from probably three isn't good and our current form and inability to beat even the shhtiest team in the league isn't good, but football supporters are mentalists (or gluttons for punishment)!!!!!!!

He did have an advantage with all that padding!!!!

The stories about that day are legendary, but was too young to experience them.

Here's hoping!!!!!!! But I fear it will be about £5million in total!!!!

I agree that to sell you have to have a willing buyer, but I can't believe we couldn't have raised some money had we really decided to bite the bullet. Accept Swansea's low offer for Dyer??? Let it be known Lallana, Surman & anyone else was available, even if it started a firestorm??? Anythign had to be better than Administration and I can't help but think we slept walked towards it by assuming Barclay's would never pull the plug.

Scooby was a mentalist with a comic twist (was it really performance art???). Tommac was actually serious (which is really scary as he was sniffing around the Club at some point). Whereas Sundance, Flashman, Third Bear, Nineteen Canteen is just a classic WUM (and not the brightest either as his cover story is never consistent LOL). There was another good troll on here, but I've forgotten his name, will have to rack my brains for it.

Of course dear troll, of course.:smt119:rolleyes::smt119:rolleyes: If you didn't know who I was then how come you mention me in your "first" ever post on this forum??? LMFAO. And then of course there's the PM's you've sent, along with knowing who I was a week or so into your "first" posts on this board by mentioning me by name;) If you're going to come up with a cover story, then you at least have to be consistent. Not the best troll on this board, but perhaps the funniest8-[

Well then maybe you shouldn't have come on here under your new guise of Nineteen Canteen and begin by defaming others on here with lies, false accusations and allegations that had to be removed.:smt119:rolleyes: It's all very well coming on here today in your new guise of the "respectable" Nineteen Canteen Mk VI, but sadly the legacy of your posts, wind ups, antagonism, rude and insulting PM's can't be consigned to history just because of your latest "24 hour" persona (in fact you can't even help yourself from your digs under this new persona).:cool: Keep up the good work though as you are an interesting character;)

Just a few minor points;) You must have a very broad definition of "very experienced" as Poortvliet's experience was mainly consigned to semi pro teams in the lower Dutch leagues. And they would also vanish and not be quarterly when Lowe was last at the helm and things weren't going too well. And they certainly didn't return in the last year either. And once agin it gives me no great pleasure to see other clubs being in the same position as we find ourselves in. I fail to see how the success or failure at another club acn have any bearing on us whatsoever. If it's some faint attempt to say "see it happens to others", well it is totally irrelevant and of no consolation to me, nor does it justify or mean we should accept the fact that our Club has been run appallingly in recent years.

They indeed are not world beaters, but both have shown that when given a settled and good run in a team that they will deliver. It was only last season that John finished near the top of the scoring charts depsite being in a team that got progressively worse as the season wore on (up until a spurt at the end). Both of them have had their seasons ruined through a disjointed pre season when they were out of favour and are only temporarily plugging holes in other teams. Of course they're a year (or two) older, but they are not crap.

Showing your age fella, as Forest is one ground I've been to a number of times. Think the first was about 1979 or 1980. The League games, a great 1984 Cup match right through to that freezing Cup match a few years back.

Stu alluded to this elsewhere. Would want to have a decent look at the numbers just to see how it all panned out (costs v income) and then consider what the hire charge will be against the alterntive net cost/profit of owning. Is a benefit or is it a millstone??? In principle I don't have an aversion to renting the stadium off of someone, but it's still a fairly fluid situation. Stu's point was interesting in that if the "new owners" haven't got the money to get the stadium "on the cheap" then it may not bode well for how much dosh they have!! But on the other hand, if it means we stay in existence (with the potential to perhaps buy back in the future), then why not?