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What are you going on about????? Why is it a consequence of Rule 34 being circumvented????? Even prior to Rule 34 being circumvented it was shareholders who still controlled the decisions of the vast majority of football clubs.

Thanks for highlighting nickh's ignorance LOL. How the fck can you even think that that poll, with that question, in that context equates to people campaigning for administration I'll never know LMFAO.:smt119:rolleyes:

Actually we hadmore, we had: Strachan Wigley Sturrock Wigley Redknapp Wise/Bassett Burley Dodd/Gorman Pearson JP Wotte

Beacause this is the noddy, anonymous, ether world of the internet where clicking on a poll does not equate to campaigning (unless you're a total dinlo of course). Well if you don't know if they were campaigning then WTF are you inferring they were for then???.:smt119:smt119 So let's keep ths simple and get back to the point in context. Please feel free to furnish this forum with evidence that many on this board have been campaigning for administration. So far we have Stanley, Alpine, Richmond (and even then they're only posting their views up on here) or did I miss the five man march for administration???

So we were good during the Wigley era then :smt119:rolleyes::smt119 Get in bed with nickh, you make a great pair of rewriting history.

And so therefore they are campaigning for it. Fck me sometimes I wonder just how your logic works:rolleyes::smt119:rolleyes::smt119:rolleyes:

I would hardly equate voting on a poll on here, following a demorailising defeat, with relegation and administration staring you in the face, and the mood being, "let's get it over and done with" with campaigning for administration for a long time. There's probably been a handful of people campaigning for administration - Alpine, Stanley, ???, ???, ???

I'm just saying that the qualities you highlighted earlier have little bearing on what makes a good coach. That's all. Killer was a class centre half, great servant to the club and an all round saints legend.

I'm sure he could organise himself at a corner, but does this automatically translate into being able to pass it on and coach others to do the same? Gazza was a right little maestro in the middle of the park ......... Bobby Moore was a sensational centre half ........... Mark Dennis was a tenascious full back ........... etc etc etc

One can only assume that you must have missed this littel ditty (I'll highlight it this time around). So the, "Football Club Suffers Fall In Attendances Due To Poor Performances And Results", headline comes as a bit of a shock to you then???? And as for your retort in blue, then you might as well have simply said, "it would have been better had crowds still been the same as when we were in the Premiership and everyone also donated another £20 each game" as that would be just as irrelevant and as much of a fantasy.

What are/were his coaching attributes?

Indeed he is, but you need to be really on his pet hate list to make it int his note pad. When I speak about elastivity of demand, I'm not just referring to price elasticity, but also a simple recognition that at a static price you have to give people a reason to come. Wins, goals, entertainment, a sense of belonging, a sense of belief, engender a community spirit etc etc etc. Without delivering any of that it is simply not right to start blaming the customers for failing to buy the product.

Indeed, 2nd bottom on last 8 games: http://stats.football365.com/dom/ENG/D1/oform.html and still 2nd bottom on last 6 games: http://www.4thegame.com/statistics/championship/tables/currentform.html To be second bottom in current form at this stage isn't the best of news when you're fighting for your life.

Indeed it is. So IMHO you have to start looking at the manager and the coachign squad and ask why they are not getting the best out of the team????? On paper we are much better than our current position.

Did I see him driving into Staplewood on Tuesday monrning around 10:00?????

If Norwich win, then I think it is game over. They will be 5 points better off, but with a better goal difference we will need 6 points to overhaul them and I can't see us clawing back 6 points on them in 4 games. The only positive is that they are away at Swansea (they then have Watford at home on Monday. Barnsley then come into play but with two games in hand they only need one point from those two to be in the same position as Norwich. Forest could win today and pull 4 points ahead of us, but the fact we have them last game of the season means we just need to stay within three points of them. Norwich must not win today!!!!!!!!!!

I think you're getting your knickers in a twist here. A very small minority have been campaigning for administration, and it probably would have been easier for you to have PM'd them and asked them their thoughts directly. Succinctly missing the point and failing to grasp that the fans not going to matches is not the issue. It's why they weren't going that is the key point. You can stamp your feet as much as you like, you can shout until you're red in the face, but you can't force people to do anything. If they don't see a reason to go (and there are a myriad of reasons for not going), then they won't go. Short of press ganging or making it compulsory, then attendances will ebb and flow, primarily due to success or failure. It happens at every club (with the odd one off exception). I would have thought that an erudite busunessman such as yourself would appreciate the elasticity of demand. Every Club has a loyal following up to a point, after that you have to make people want to come along. Which goes back to the first point in that I think very few people actually wished for administration. I personally think it is the worst thing that could have happened and I can't help but think we should have done everythign and anything to avoid it. Although Barclay's changed the rules half way through the game I just don't think we have covered ourselves in glory by just blindly allowing it to happen (that's not the ridiculous appointment of the Revolutionary Coaching Set Up BTW, more to do with our later failure to comply with Barclay's demands e.g. someo one off cash rasing in the Jan transfer window, other sale of asset etc etc etc). Whether we come out the other side stringer remains to be seen, but I fear the legacy of administration will hang over us for a while yet.

Only two interesting pints in something that almost makes Frank's posts readable. And that should be it with regards Lowe. Am I the only one who thinks this word is used too often. It's a Lowe/beancounters word, which IMHO conjures up everything wrong in our recent history. I'm not one for overstretching ourselves and living within our means, but the concept of hoping we get someone prudent just sends out all the wrong messages and is looking at football from the wrong perspective. Success on the pitch underpins everything, you have to get that right. It should simply be replaced with successfully, as that covers everything (on and off the pirth).

I think ego and Lowe having some unfinished business and wanting to prove himself were the overiding factors.

Divided intimates a split down the middle, and I don't anything could be further from the truth. Feel free to start a list of those who you know would have preferred Poortvliet/Wotte to Pearson for this season.

That squad is not worthy of a promotion push, but I also don't believe it's the second worst in the division. Put us up against a few of those teams down the bottom and man for man I reckon we're better in many positions. IMHO I'm afraid the Revolutionary Coaching Set Up have a lot to answer for. We have seen in patches that this team can perform, it's just that the managers this season have not managed to get any consistency from them. Players must of course take their share of responsibility, but IMHO the manager is the most important person at any club and he can make the most impact on the team and on results. Get that appointment wrong and you struggle.

Gallows humour fella!!!!! Walking to the Charlton match, a few of us were discussing this possibility and tried to imagine what an away game at Cowes or Newport would be like!!! We reckoned 500 away tickets, but a couple of thousand just going over for the pss up and fun. Couldn't believe we would still be playing at SMS in that division, so imagined we'd be groundsharing with Eastleigh or maybe someone on the outskirts of the city like VT, Queens Keep or Totton. Or maybe develop something at Test Park, Five Acres, Green Park, the Veracity Ground LOL, etc etc etc

Fair is not the right word, "impossible" to compare/prove might be more appropriate. That said, it didn't stop you wittering on about it a few weeks back when Wotte had his purple patch, so please spare us the "It is not a fair comparison" when things aren't as rosey.

Shall we compare all your various posts under all your various guises?:smt119

HOT and CROSS How apt???? As for the due process, then I'm willing to give Mry Fry the benefit of the doubt, not least because even though Insolvency Practioners get a bad press, I actually think he will be professional throughout this. I'm hoping that he can quickly sort through the timewasters and bullshtters and then start to work with the interested parties. (PS Begbies Traynor also did Bournemouth's administration recently, so fingers crossed Krasner and his team have tipped him off about LongLifeCherry/Saint)