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He's Alex Chamberlain, He does what he wants.

Right here (before you edited it - good job I had another window open!!!) Slippery editing like that would get you a job at NI!!!

And then followed it up by claiming Red Ed is calling for Cameron to resign, when he actually isn't (radio callers leaps to Leader of the opposition-nice).

OK, your point is solely based on a few loons ringing in a radio station and you then somehow extrapolate that to it being Milliband demanding he resign (which he never has).

LOL, your outrage is due to a few loons ringing in a radio station and you then somehow extrapolate that to it being Milliband demanding he resign (which he never has).

Oh, radio station callers, OK, thanks. (but not red ed as you've stated above, he's merely suggested an apology might be forthcoming!)

Who is calling for Cameron to go?

I'm sure it was as a result of his somewhat hard living, but if you looked at this from a distance - phone hacking, blagging, pinging, snooping, sackings, arrests, resignations, national papers shutting down, mega business deals being pulled, Prime Ministers and officials compromised, fraud, corruption, inquiries, witnesses dying and people digging in bins trying to retrieve accidentally thrown out lap tops - then you would think it was a rather OTT Grisham novel.

Weak leadership, poor judgement, being reactive not proactive, playing catch up, making wrong calls etc etc etc, all not particularly good traits for a PM. He's just been out of touch with others in this scandal, with Norman Fowler (former journalist and editor) calling fo an inquiry a month before Cameron finally caught up. Incompetence, or something more sinister???

Cameron, Hunt, May & Boris have all been flapping whilst events have overtaken them in recent weeks. The Conservative leadership have displayed an astounding lack of empathy with events and decisions, quotes and actions are coming back to bite them firmly on the bottom. A few Conservatives have shown the leadership the way, but those at the top have been found wanting over this sorry saga. Clegg & Cable have kept their heads below the parapet, when in reality they could well be getting stuck in as their powder is somewhat dry and untainted from Murdoch's influence (then again I saw a Tweet saying the Liberals claiming to be immune from being sucked in by Murdoch is akin to a really ugly person stating they are proud to be celibate!!). Prescott, Watson and a few others have led from the front and even though I don't particularly rate Milliband, he has been leading Cameron by the nose and has been setting the pace throughout, calling everything a few days ahead of Cameron. He certainly has judged this right. I just wonder whether Cameron's indecision and lack of leadership is die to him being really concerned that something connecting him to all this will be uncovered soon as he certainly looks out of sorts (then again it is at times of a crisis that you get to see the true mettle of individuals).

Had to giggle when Boris refused to apologise for referring to the Hackgate scandal as "This is a load of codswallop" last year. His judgement seems to be as flawed as Cameron's on this one, with both of them found wanting as events overtook them.

Fully aware of that, but he makes no mention of it in his resignation speech. His speech sounds like Couldon Mk II, "I have done nothing wrong, honest, I'm just going as I'm a distraction!!!".

So why has he resigned??? as nothing in his speech made it clear to me!!!! I just have this funny feeling that we will never get to the bottom of this whole scandal and things will be covered up by various parties.

Nope, cricket season still in full flow (although if it's a wash out like this weekend, then I might be tempted to pop along).

Born a stones throw from St Mary's in Northam and was the fourth generation (at least) Saints fan. First game aged 5 in the early 70's vs Glasgow Rangers in the Texaco Cup (can still remember the giant Texaco football in the middle of the pitch and the mass of ****ed up Jocks in The Archers!!!).

He's grilling all the coppers and is due to grill Stephenson on Tuesday.

He may be an honourable solicitor by trade, but Vaz has regularly left a "trail" behind himself from unregistered payments to passport advice!!!!!! Sometimes good value for money though and he does provide a spectacle with his antics in the chair (although I would prefer a more robust chairman for these sessions)

Gus O'Donnell's memo from last year does indicate that the advice given to Brown was that it would not be feasible to launch an inquiry. Of course, the final decision was Brown's, but the evidence put in front of him made it clear that it was unlikely it would ever get off the ground. Three key passages that indicated this are: "Any decision to hold such an inquiry could be challenged by judicial review particularly if the inquiry were extended to the media in general and it is not inconceivable that such a challenge might succeed." "While these criticisms are serious there does not appear to be any suggestion of a systematic failure by the police and it must be doubtful whether a public inquiry could shine any particular fresh light on the police's actions which were endorsed apparently by the CPS." "From the limited information available it is doubtful whether this case would merit the holding of a public inquiry under the 2005 Inquiries Act."

But as is noted in one of the responses (and having worked in the media for quite a while), there is nothing odd with using and paying, a whole host of agencies, individuals, companies etc for obtaining information. Additionally, there is an allowance for using "underhand" methods to acquire information if it can be deemed to be in the public interest. There is nothing in that report that would warrant (or satisfy the requirem,ents for) a Public Inquiry. I think the issue has only come to a head now as new evidence has emerged and also due to the persistence of a few MP's and a few journalists at The Guardian. Up until now, NI (with the assistance of an appalling, if not complicit, Police inquiry) have managed to blag [sic] their way through it by claiming it was a one off rogue journalist (or a very small group). Additionally, NIs power & influence has always been seen as being too powerful by some and it was only when public opinion supported them that politicians (of all colours) suddenly found their voice and got stuck in.

I think the season ticket count underpins overall attendances and it ensures we have a level of support for that season regardless of performances. If the end game is to increase season ticket sales (although of course some people don't think this is the case), then I just don't think the Club has handled the season ticket push very well (price, marketing, timings etc etc etc). I think we'll be slightly ahead of last year, which given the free kiddies tickets in there will mean I think it will be similar to this year, which if that is correct will be disappointing. Given the positive news on the pitch, I would have liked to see us pushing late teens, maybe even close to 20,000, but there's still time yet to get there!!

Think Phil was involved in finding out that the company supposedly backing them and their David beckham plan was a sham, but it was Rob (Exit2) who got hold of the UKs company's details on the day they were lodged and then myself who let him know Bazza was as dodgy as feck!!!!!

Indeed!!!!! I remember when Exit2 (admin back then) e-mailed me the company details (directors names etc) of Wacko Jacko's/Fake Sheikh/Barry The Briefcase's company on a Friday evening and I almost spat out my cider when I saw Beardall on there. Rememebred his name from some shennigans in the accountancy world and some other stuff in the media and let him know straight away. Any doubts (and I had shedloads of them) I had about Wacko and his David Beckham were well and truly outed that evening.

And the "I'm shocked" line was in the context of referring to accessing of his building society account: "I think that what happened pretty early on in government is that the Sunday Times appear to have got access to my building society account. "They got access to my legal files, there is some question mark about what happened to other files - documentation, tax and everything else. "I'm shocked, I'm genuinely shocked, to find that this happened because of their links with criminals, known criminals, who were undertaking this activity, hired by investigators with the Sunday Times."

There are a few issues at play here, some of them cross party and some that do have a direct relation to one party. The idea that members of the Police Force (and other institutions) are susceptible to bribes is a cross party issue that we as a nation should be massively concerned over. The influence and power that NI and others have on our political, economic and social systems is also a cross party issue and one that both sides (maybe not the Lib Dems) have benefitted from. Additionally, both the main parties have shyed away from taking on NI both for fear of losing their influence and also for fear of then being targeted in retribution. However, IMHO, the Coulson issue is of direct relevance to the PM's (and his advisors and party's) judgement and should be quite rightly challenged.

Was the bull amused????