Sir Ralph

Oh met somebody else tonight who has just sold their software business and moving to the us because they don’t see any future here. But I’m just making it up #itsallfine

The police have lost bearing on what their job is - or at least their seniors have. The problem is society has become so sensitive about any form of comments (words are the equivalent of physical aggression BS) that people report any old shite to the police. The police, being scared of these overly sensitive people and not wanting to be labelled as racist or homophobes, etc then feel they have to “investigate” these matters. Get your phone stolen on the street though and that’s ok - your tweet with some obscure opinion is potentially more harmful to the snowflake than the thief that stole your phone. Real and proper nasty stuff should be investigated but the threshold for investigating some of this rubbish needs to be raised as it’s a waste of police time.

Jim Callaghan….sorry Kier Starmer I meant

One of my first memories when I was little was an end of season match against the crazy gang in the 80’s. All of the players walked out to the directors box at the end and got cheered. Razor Ruddock dropped his shorts and, jockstrap on, started to thrust backwards and forwards with his manhood bouncing all over the place to big cheers. That was definitely etched in my memory! Can’t imagine Jack Stephen’s doing that nowadays somehow!

I’m lost then - sorry who is making what point please?

As I said I don’t think Kimmel should have been cancelled. However what he did say was incorrect and misleading about the killer. To be fair Kimmel was doing what he accused Trump of, by making it about politics and misleading to achieve his aim.

Agree - this type of rubbish has been going on for too long. Don’t now need more of it

He is nowhere near a 'facist' - there seems to be a lack of understanding of this word. When conservative commentators were cancelled during Biden's presidency was he a facist? As I said before, I think Kimmel is talking rubbish but shouldnt be cancelled

This is very ironic, in case you hadnt been around for the past 10 years. I'm not agreeing with it mind you. Also, this wasn't a decision made by politicians so you cant accuse Trump of being that in this case.

He shouldnt have been cancelled as that's against free speech. What he was though was fundamentally factually incorrect in his statement, which is embarrassing. He said that the shooter was essentially a conservative, which is incorrect and an insensitive thing to say in the context of the Kirk killing. However, being an idiot shouldnt prevent free speech. As I said above, he shouldnt be cancelled but the irony is that this has happened to many conservative commentators and is now happening in the reverse.

Your comment wasn’t particularly funny. Try to be more balanced though

I’m trying to be balanced….try it sometime as I know it’s alien to you. When we call out bad policies, that’s not talking the country down, it’s calling out crap policies!

Credit where credit is due. In the interest of fairness and balance there is the odd thing they are doing right. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c7016ljre03o

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Enjoy the game tomorrow COYS

Thats clearly not what she is saying. She is talking about how the actions of his killers is going to push her to carry on his work. People are mocking his death online. She is restrained. I think that people are looking for an angle because of his political views. Unlike other high profile deaths I don’t think there will be social disorder despite the strength of feeling. So far we have seen vigils and prayers.

I agree and there has been lots of online vitriol towards him with people mocking his death. Her speech was not a call to arms it was about carrying on his legacy and how she was determined to do it.

we will probably disagree about whether he was stupid or racist in this instance because I think he is making a different point to the one you interpret and he has also quoted DEI as being negative if it promotes white people. So his objection is to DEI not skin colour. Out of interest, when you mention the other times he has shown bigoted views are you able to provide examples as I can’t find any? There are tens of videos where he is actually promoting positive engagement and coming together between different factions- the opposite of bigotry

Ok agreed - I’ll put you on ignore if you keep calling me a c bomb though. 😆

This feels weird - why are we being nice to each other? Maybe let’s both be a bit more respectful to each other in future posts

Thats fine and you’re fully entitled to your opinion. We would probably actually get on ok in reality. also thanks for calling me fairly well educated - I’ll take that as a compliment. I’ll take your advice on board and try to be less of a c bomb If you move to Dubai I’ll give you my friends details so you can hang out with them 😉

I have children and I agree it takes the edges of you. I see the world much differently than before kids. You talk about empathy and kindness but your posts don’t really reflect that in the way you engage with people if I’m being honest. I’m not saying I’m an angel either. Not being rude or trying to wind you up just an observation as I know you have broad enough shoulders to take it. I mean you called us both c bombs in the above message

No - if you think he is a facist it doesn’t fit the below definition. Let’s deal in facts. How does he meet the definition on this basis? fascist is a follower or proponent of fascism, a far-right political ideology characterized by extreme nationalism, authoritarian rule by a single party and dictator, and totalitarian control over society. Fascism places the nation above all else, opposing individual rights, democracy, and often using violence and oppression to maintain power and achieve national unity. Notable examples include Benito Mussolini in Italy and Adolf Hitler in Germany.

Are you pissed?

He is quoting out of context on purpose. He already posted quotes earlier which were shown to be incorrect. I’ll await the Dubai comment