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In the business of crisis management Danny Rohl served his apprenticeship at Sheffield Wednesday. As wacky a place as Wednesday was - and is - under the ownership of Thai tuna tycoon Dejphon Chansiri, the German's time there can be seen as an 89-game warm-up routine. From frying pan to furnace, Rohl is the new Rangers head coach. He becomes the eighth permanent manager/head coach of the Ibrox club in little over a decade and the 16th when you factor in all those interim guys who have drifted across their landscape. BBC Link
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Russell Martin signed for us in June 2023 and was sacked December 2024. As we know both Russ and our DoF insisted on scrapping all that had gone before and starting with a new way of playing. Just because you are not in the first eleven doesn't mean you are not getting it rammed down your throat in training, and being shouted at and ridiculed when you play with normal thinking. Our squad; months exposed to training with Russ 18 - McCarthy, Bazunu, THB, Stephens, Manning, Downes, Aribo, Armstrong, Edozie 17 - Archer 16 - Stewart, Fraser 14 - Charles 6 - Wood, Edwards That's 15 players in a first team squad of 30. But eight of those players were on the pitch at some point on Saturday, and the players are surrounded by staff and fans who have seen shit results and whippings for 4 out of the last 5 seasons. Things have improved to my eye as far as not playing quite so many hospital passes, and we even made a couple of quick breaks out of our own half! But the passing it around the defence for the 7 mins of injury time was surely tied up with this training memory, and the experience of having shipped end of game goals endlessly in recent years.
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You think Stewart might get lonely in the physio's waiting room and could do with a rehab buddy?
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Matsuki would be playing ahead of Azaz / Fellows / Armstrong (maybe Charles / Jander ) He's another small player to add to Scienza, Arma, Archer, Fraser, Jelert. He'd need to be bossing it in training to get that breakthrough I suspect.
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If you were Will Still would you have brought Damion Downs on instead of one of the other subs? I wouldn't have. Bearing in mind he is one of only 2 proper strikers we have fit at the club Will Still would have made Spors look even more of a tit if he had left him at home. Probably not wise to embarrass your line manager so early in your tenure 😉
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Yes - shit. BUT Still has only managed 10 league games, and won the cup games + a creditable performance at Anfield. League = W2, D6, L2 How easy do you think it is to immediately turn around a team with those stats with a fan base that has seen the worst results in Europe over the last 4 years?
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Yes
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Swansea's Alan Sheehan: "That is our first good point of the season. The draws we have had have felt like losses. We've played better with the ball and come away short of points. "They created a lot of chances in that spell in the first half. That is the first time a team has created that amount of chances against us, credit to them."
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I worry that if we replace Edwards with Downes we'll just go back to dull endless passing back with none of the optimistic incisive through balls, and the couple of quick breaks we made today. I'd rather have Jander play the holding role and bring Azaz or Fellows in if we go to a back four.
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Because of Man City and their ilk ripping the piss out of the rest of the football league for the last decade, and because of what happened to Palace with European football
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Yes you're right. But I still think you'd need Stewart for the 4-2-3-1. If you want to play a back four you'd play 4-3-3 with a single sitting midfielder.
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Bristol City 3-1 Saints - Match Thread
Patches O Houlihan replied to tdmickey3's topic in The Saints
Jelert is out, and they might not risk Welington coming back from injury. So I think we see the same team, but Fellows in for Jelert, and Manning in for Wely. I think we'll win -
4-2-3-1 when played against a league that will mostly be defensive playing against you needs Ross Stewart and we don't have him. That was Plan B. Plan C requires us to get the ball to our midget forwards to score. Which means probing through balls, clever short crosses, and attacking players popping up all over the show so their defence can't crowd out our little chaps. Plus Scienza doing his thing. There could be an argument for a 4-3-3 with the front six very fluid, but that's a wholesale change and at the moment we are doing OK defensively. So rather than throw the baby out with the bathwater I think we're trying to build from a relatively solid defensive base (something we've heard pundits blather on about for years)
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If Stewart had survived the last 60 minutes of our last game we would be playing Plan B which was working. With the players that were recruited for him I just see him doing the best that he can. We didn't play with a 10 today McCarthy Edwards Wood THB Jelert Jander Charles Wely Armstrong Scienza Archer Edwards and THB were the ball players, Jander & Charles got forward to support. All three centre backs + Charles were up for set pieces to provide an aerial threat. Wood dominated in defence. The front three played a good press, and generally the front seven were quite fluid in their positions. At one point in the middle of the first half I think Jelert played a short ball to Welington around the right corner of their area. Scienza's touch map appeared on the screen at the end of the game. I can't find it right now but it looked like a child's finger painting! The only place he didn't get the ball was in the RB position. He clearly had licence to roam. Jander and Charles both had close range shots.
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He doesn't have a true 'accepted style' he's a pragmatic coach and tries to build a team around its strengths. In his previous roles he got a group of players used to playing together who were familiar with the division, and whilst on a loosing streak weren't a complete basket case. Saints had two groups of players going into September: Those who have struggled to change from Martinball and were demoralised by the PL season Those new at the club or are returning from loan. Still initial plan didn't work because it relied too heavily on that first group. His second plan worked but required Ross Stewart to play. And it worked. Today looked to me like it was his third plan: The defence was the same but we played far more direct forward balls through their defence to players around the D. There was less reliance on getting to the byline and delivering crosses, although clearly there was some of this. I also felt like the three CBs played higher allowing the two midfielders to play in a more forward/attacking way. It was also helpful that Scienza was given licence to roam.
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So by extension if we were to field a team that played a low block and had shots raining in on the keeper throughout every game, both home and away, but every third game we scored a breakaway goal with our one chance that would make you a happy man?!
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Brooks was pretty good too. It worked fine to play Martinball in the Champ, but the players who tried to play it extensively in the Premier League now seem to be broken by it emotionally, and are struggling to adapt their game back to normal football: Flynn Downes has played about eight forward passes all season. To hear you singing Russell Martin's praises is truly a bizarre about turn. You were a hardcore 'Martin out' during the Championship season. Russ was good for team morale and rebuilt the team spirt after the lacklustre first PL relegation, but his style was polarising and was never likely to work in the PL Still inherited a team that was even more demoralised than the one that Martin inherited, and it had worse players at the start of the transfer window. It would seem from the outside that he doesn't have Martin's ability to turn around the mood rapidly (which honestly I was very impressed by). BUT - I think Still's style is far more likely to work in the PL if we are promoted. We have lost only 2 of 10 league games (Martin had lost 4 at this stage) and we did pretty well away at Liverpool. The first half we played today was the best we have played all season. As I just said on the other thread; 36 games to play and we are only 4 points off the playoffs. Aside from the likely points deduction people were expecting Leicester to do well - they have 1 win and 4 draws in last five.
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Neither are better than the players who played today in their positions/roles
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We are unbeaten in four games since the away loss at Liverpool. The first half today was the best we have played all season. We are 4 points off the playoffs with 36 games to play.
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I think we should have used the Azaz money for striker
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On average if 'Team A' has 21 shots, 8 on target and 2 off the inside of the post, and 'Team B' has 7 shots, 2 on target you would expect Team A to win. To put it another way. I would be more than happy if those are the shot stats after our game at Bristol - because I would expect us to have won the game.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0m9fj2r Goin Home with Adam & Jo
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It did look like he was nailed on for a move to Belgium. Does anyone know why both his options fell through? Did he sit on the pot deciding too long?
