gio1saints

Go report yourself to the Bureau of Hindsight. They could do with some of your skills. Or go work for the Royal Shakespeare Company, your talent as a drama queen on Saints match thread is impressive.

5 in three games. Why are you so hysterical after three matches. Oh I forget you were hysterical same time last year also.

Given the choice would you consider it wisest to start season playing the way that got us promoted playing v Leeds and West Brom - or go back to the way we played prior to them v inferior teams which saw us lose all hope of automatic??? You are implying the latter and suggest you thought so all season - which sounds as utterly ludicrous as it is. I guess your - and some other hysterical folk on here - football knowledge skill tells us that we should have reverted to the formation incapable of beating those football titans - or a magic plan C that nobody had yet shared and is obviously invisible to RM - but im not buying it. I think three matches of failure is enough to require change though. Pretty much. But seriously- all of you with “ reservations” to put it mildly about RM that are having an unseemly orgasmic feeding frenzy over this terrible selection, set up and performance just take a chill pill. Success and failure, those two twin imposters.

Do any of you remember WHY we started playing three at the. Back? Was it because we were winning all our games playing differently? or was it because we needed to tighten up at the back and it actually helped strengthen us defensively in our final ( tough) games and get promoted ? If you think it was a bad idea after three shit matches I get it. But of you have such short memories. No other manager with that squad those players would have changed that winning formula. Im as disappointed as anyone- but some of you seriously got to take a deep breath and consider what pathetic whinging bitches you all sound like . 😂

You get off on hate don’t you?

Very humbling to be 3-0 at this stage at Brentford. Thought it was a game we could be looking to win. The starting line up had the look of a last chance saloon for certain players though - not all that attacking at all and we all thought it was not the right move but hoped for the best - and so it transpires. That AA and WS got hooked at HT says it all. The second half is looking calamitous. Who did not think this kind of score line might happen? There’s always a positive : On the up side it’s 0-3 at farton park. 😁

Think you are right. We were shite v Forest. But the message is clear: that Same team gets a chance to make amends pretty much. Feel for Archer especially but I expect he will come on. As will Tyler and Mateus. Just hope it’s still all square at that point. Not 2 or 3 down to the Bees FFS. In Russ we trust. 😇

Bloke scored twice last match. Must start.

Very Valid counter argument. The five subs thing especially. But we did happen to make a feature of scoring late goals last year and it was arguably not coincidental to our soporific style of play.

I agree. He needs to do a lot more. That’s why I said he’s not there yet.

I was surprised to hear that Ramsdale’s initiation into the team is to perform at least six keepy uppy’s in his six yard box before volleying it direct to one of our players for a completed pass ( can be any of our players but it must be a volley or half volley) at some point during the Brentford match. This is an unusual initiation rite and I can’t say I’m not concerned that it might lead to an outbreak of similar such frivolities elsewhere on the pitch later today. Mateus is on for three nutmegs required if he starts for instance. It’s not the football I used to play

Quite. Sam’s goal v Cardiff was a thing of startling beauty. And we have scored a fair few of those. Adam Armstrongs Winner at Wembley being the ultimate example of what that soporific pass pass game can deliver. I think Ive seen more beautiful goals in one season last year than in last ten previous. If that’s what soporific gives then I’m all in for it.

Separate answer on that though : I previously was involved in managing world class professional athletes. One thing I enjoyed (and was surprised at) was how different there characters could be out of competition. Some of them relished absolutely destroying opponents - and some in particular actually loved to grind them into pieces. But out of competition pleasant as you like. With the way Saints make the opposition run I recognise an element of comparable brutality there - I think RM is absolutely ruthless and literally wants his opponents to be weeping piles of sweat at match end having been beasted for 100 minutes chasing chasing chasing his players, fruitlessly. Many Saints fans see him as not that - and all that endless passing irks - then add in his vegetarianism and Buddhist beliefs and they take a dislike. But oh no- the bloke is super tough & has the courage to appear vulnerable. A big man indeed and a worthy leader.

I was more referring to his sense of humour and banter value apparent with his players.

I think Russell is great. A fucking great big breath of fresh air. He is the best fun Manager we’ve had since Strachan and I’m hoping his brand of football- with Saints- becomes revered around the world. I reserve the right to exercise my sense of humour and parody him though should he continue to play the U formation with no attacking allowed or that Russian Roulette 4 passes to the goalie per match in his 6 yard box game rule he has insisted upon ( that’s not true btw).

Ah. I’m sorry. I did not realise you own the talking bollocks franchise on here. Duly noted.

Agreed. But obviously the thinking is that Archer can and will be tried to do it, or that we will not play like we did v Forest ever again, and /or our mf especially Dibling and Mateus to fill that space in penalty area. Or a combo including trying out BBD and AA at times in that central focus position rather than exclusively wide. And if all those fail then we have Tall Paul. And of course the return of that injured other CF we bought. Last resort it’s a Jan window buy. So there are options I guess although not entirely satisfactory but can’t have it all!

It’s occurred to me that Russell Martin is being softly marketed by SR as a golden hen coach. Players, especially young players, who have been trained by RM and his team are not just standard players. They have the ( marketing spiel) “added value” of being fully immersed in total, absolute hardcore, PB football. Just like certain Managers have become renowned for a certain style of play - Bielsa is a good example - Brand RM is for anyone out there wants a player who has certain automatic ball possession, physical capability, footballing courage & IQ and on field positional awareness characteristics ( to name but a few required to play PB football the way RM wants). SR want saints to win - but it’s certainly another money spinner if RM becomes renowned as a good teacher. He has not earned that accolade yet, but seems to me SR very much hoping he does cos even if we lose they win by the inflated fees the RM trained players may command.

Yiu are right. Getting insurance against Bubonic plague costs an arm and a leg. 😇

I don’t think we are going to win the league. Based on this Transfer window. BUT we might win most passes without a goal/ shot on target. And in my opinion these categories of achievement have been chronically undervalued. When you look at who they vote for Premier League Manager of the Year I bet you they don’t look at crucial data like that- wether or not we get Cornet or Wee Man back in the team.

I’ve said it before- these professionals should get themselves certified medically a week ahead of deadline day by an approved reputable FA listed medical authority. Certificate in hand it speeds things up, easy to insert a nul and void if he’s broken his legs in the last week or contracted Bubonic Plague that nobody knew about clause as well.

Why have you, in both example formations placed forwards in the penalty area (indeed in your second formation there are TWO! ) This is quite clearly discussed and trained relentlessly in practice. No standing in the penalty area. It’s like five a sides no stepping in the penalty area. How on earth can saints be expected to break the World Record for most passes without a shot on target if you put someone in the penalty area - clearly we will be overrun in midfield and there’s no chance of beating that “ most passes without a shot on target” Guinness Book of Records metric (MPWASOT for those in the biz).

ATM our CF option is Archer or Archer or Archer. At a push it’s Archer. With AA on the right and BBD on the left. And that one not Archer who is injured. And the very Tall one not allowed to play because…of a reason ( it’s cos he is too tall). Sometimes either of those two players can pretend they are the CF too - until RM scowls at them and tells them to leave those CB’s alone and stop bumping into Archer. Oh, and if our MF can get into the penalty area then it’s one of them is our CF. And they must also remember not to bump into Archer. Or the others in the physio lounge. This is a good plan. Except Archer will be mostly on the bench so some of our players gonna be way out of position if they keep bumping into him. Also of note is the Helpline number Saints are thoughtfully providing for Centre backs and goalkeepers visiting St Mary’s this season : “ Feeling lonely? Nobody to talk to? The game passing you by and you are not getting a touch?” Phone 0208 338 dial-friend- and one of our trained volunteers will, in a non judgemental way, talk you through why it’s ok not to see the ball or required to run or do a save in a match at St Mary’s if you are the opposition centre back or goalkeeper. It’s them NOT you that’s the issue. So don’t put yourself down. Registered charity number SR2024.

Interesting point. IF palace sell there too CB they may come in for one of ours. Jan the favourite but ABK not a bad alternate shout. IF that happened I reckon any bid over £15-£20m and either are gone. Less for Jan.

If I was Brentford after watching Saints v forest I might be tempted to play with a keeper, 2 full backs, 1 CB (he can chat to the keeper if he gets bored and lonely) 4 MF’s and 3 attackers. The ball is not going anywhere near the penalty spot is it so just push up. The not so secret plan is to Wait for the inevitable passing around the six yard box fuck up and take it from there. 😂🥳