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Wasn't at the game tbf. But wondering if we still have a hangover with Tonda. I cant see improvement without starting again. It’s a problem when January comes along and the players that have stayed that are good enough to go, think nows the time. i just cant see anything that tells me there is a promotion and a plan for Prem football next season. Probably because there isn't one.
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Tbf and I am probably on my own here. But I would have got rid of him when this all kicked off. Started again, he will go anyway at some point. Why are we causing ourselves a load of grief when it was his doing in the first place.
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I’m probably in the minority, but he had to go with all the play off antics. This unfortunately is the fall out, even if we win. Any normal business and normal common sense would say get rid and start again. Its going to be toxic until he goes, then it’s probably to late to mount any serious challenge. Unless by some miracle we get a proper manager.
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Sorry, but just get rid of the bad smell of the end of the last season. Dragon is not beating the FA on anything, so just get over it. Typical of an owner that thinks they are better than the same pea out of the pod.
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Stephens has always been non league level so what do we expect from the bloke. You can’t blame him, he is nowhere the level. Question the people behind the scenes, this is a complete amateur job. From top to bottom. The transfer window closing will say everything. This will not be our squad for the for coming season. Tonda proved last season a good not great manager but had to go, to much baggage and in the first 45 it shows.
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There is a bigger picture here. The only party that has to protect the integrity of a business, and the vast investment needed to keep the interests of that business intact is the owner. You do not make a successful business and an exit strategy when the time is right to make a vast amount of money on your initial investment by handing the keys to a department head to do what they please and screw it up spectacularly. Seriously, this is a longer term project for the 1 person who is paying the bills to make money. Staff in any business come and go. Especially the ones that publicly put your investment at risk. This isn’t Sunday League playing with a couple of fivers in players subs and sticking by a couple of players and manager that you have every right in selling or sacking at anytime. SR have really dropped the ball on more than one occasion. He is not going to jeopardise multi millions on a manager that has possibly already cost him 200 million or whatever the press come up with this season. As fans, we forget there is a huge financial gamble on every decision for the “Business” which is what Southampton FC is. He will go through another dozen managers before he gets the club to a position that he cashes out.
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His position is untenable. It’s as simple as that really. Regardless of any thought, loyalty, ability, record, success, whatever. There clearly is one outcome, he has to go for the sake of Southampton FC.
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Of course he has to go, but along with his line manager and the CEO. Dragan needs to find another Nicola, because at the moment we are Sunday League off the pitch. We lurch from one PR disaster to another since SR took charge. But we all know every club does it, we were stupid enough to get caught. He’s a great manager, but we now need a proven old school takes no prisoners manager. We will need it with the inevitable crap that’s coming are way. Someone that has been around the block a few times, and no not Ben Gardner, or another young coach.
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I’m sorry but Southampton FC is hardly a worldwide business with offices in every major city on the planet. The chain of command is about 3 people not layers of management as in the corporate world. Of course everyone knew, probably not Dragon because he is so distant from everything connected with football. The lot of them are complicit, and if they are not what the fcuk is going on from a business perspective of running a football club. Would never in a million years would have happened under Marcus, Nicole, and Potts. We are just so unprofessional and like a Sunday League set up behind the scenes.
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Of course he has to go. Every club does it including Boro. He just got caught.
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Hull of a beating, you are indeed correct
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I’m gonna give up watching a sport that is clearly “fixed”. Arsenal winning the league, Celtic winning the league. It’s obvious the Championship has its promoted teams all lined up .
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Every club is involved. We are just incompetent sending an intern with a iphone 10. Dragon, use your billions to bankrupt the EFL, and the incompetent so called impartial committee that must have no idea. Just tie the EFL and Independent committee in years of litigation. I happy to transfer Saints to the Serbian League until this mess is sorted, no rules that I can find that gives us the right to withdraw from the EFL and join a different League and Country.
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It can’t be the Kermit Ben Gardner. Second in charge or coach yes. Manager absolutely not, yes I have seen the complete collapse of a club in his hands. matbe that’s the culture of every club now, even before Leeds. We have so say been unlucky to be caught like Leeds.
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I am genuine when I ask what advantage do Boro really think we gained. What does the EFL think we genuinely gained. Yes I understand the 72 hours thing, but that tells me that it’s allowed. Boro need to explain why anyone walking their dog can see whats going on. I just dont get what legal challenge is available to Boro. Most importantly what legal defence that the EFL would need to prove for any wrong doing.
