Farmer Saint

The season we got relegated you mean? Where PSR wasn't being fully penalised so teams could come up thinking they could spend without impunity? Last season was the first one where the 3 teams that got promoted went straight back down since 1998. That's not a coincidence. The way for teams to stay up now is to hope that incumbent PL teams financially fuck themselves.

But the relevance is in the fact that none went down last season, further allowing for increased spending and maintenance of a PL quality squad for the 17 clubs that stayed in the League without PSR being as much of an issue. You seem to continously not grasp this point - I am assuming it's wilful ignorance on your part. If we stayed up this season we would cut out more of the Championship/League 1 quality players in our squad and replace with PL quality ones by increasing spending on both transfers and wages.

No, tanking is not really a thing - they may trade away players for prospects or draft picks, but funnily enough head coaches don't want to lose their jobs by tanking for the owners. It's also not legal, so they can lose the following season's draft picks if they do.

The squad only has about 5 or 6 PL quality players at the very most (Ramsdale, Suga (maybe), KWP (although not playing like it this season), Downes (maybe), Fernandes (maybe) and Dibling - I reckon that puts us at either 19th or 20th in the League, and WAYYYY behind anyone who was in this League last season.

Entertainment is subjective then I guess - we also played better football at times than we've seen since the early 80s.

We have the ability to be entertaining, a lot. Yes, we've not been great so far but we've still seen a fair amount of decent football against Newcastle, Man United and Ipswich.

It's not for hope reasons, it's for entertainment reasons - the hope is the hope of fun football as we'll never do anything in the PL anyway. Hoping to stay up is such a sad indictment on an individual I think, and shows someone that has the wrong outlook on life personally. Life is about fun and making the most of it, not hoping to be 4 bottom in an underwhelming and unentertaining season. Tbh, it's why the NFL shits all over association football.

That's fine, but who.

Awful football though. Makes Dyche look expansive and fun.

Sounds shit though. I'd prefer to be in the Championship I think rather than living in the Prem with no hope.

We don't have a top 18 team imo, which to me means our Manager needs to a lot more talented than those around us. He's not, but then I don't know who we'd bring in that would be.

Ah mate, so sorry to hear that. It is truly gutting, and especially at that age. Love and thoughts to you all.

Cheers all, as a family we're devastated tbh. She was only 4 so it's been a massive shock, and the kids, although older than her, don't know life without her so it's all very different. Stay well everyone.

Sorry guys, been all over the place this week, we had our dog put down yesterday and I'd spent the previous 3 days trying to get her to eat or drink 😢

Lol, I thought we were playing tonight in the League Cup 😀 What a knob.

We're not putting the same team out, we'll put out a team of reserves again. Don't blame him tbh, need to have our best team playing in the PL if we are to have any chance (and if we see a first team player injured tonight there is only one person this forum is going to blame).

The point is it shouldn't have come down to that final corner - we should have been out of sight by then!

My God there are some proper bed-wetters on here - however looking at the people posting most seem to be the fans that don't go to games - what a coincidence. I would be bed-wetting if it weren't for the fact that this was so predictable I told you all about it last September - PSR makes it nearly impossible to get relegated, immediately promoted and then make a decent fist of the next season.

Strikers just not up to standard - that's all - apart from that we looked decent against a team that finished above us last season.

You really are a joy to be around, aren't you?

BBC Sport jinxing us then.

It's more if there is one of his attributes I want Dibling to have it's not his running...

Fucking hope not.

Should have had 4, so it looks like the use of an additional attacking mid is having the desired effect.

Our success rate with strikers is absolute shit. We should have had 3, and that is not on Martin.