Hopper

What are we doing here? Tonda pressured interns to systemically spy on our opposition. Say what you want about the spying or the tactical advantage gained. The fact is we cheated multiple times and Tonda has probably played a big part in ruining the career of a young man. Those are the facts, the punishment is the punishment. We've appealed and lost. We can’t go to the court of arbitration in sport so the matter is done. Tonda and anyone involved needs to go, we can’t rebuild our reputation with them in post. anything else is just copium.

Was going to be 6 points but was reduced to 4 on mitigation of accepting the charges. So it did benefit us to admit to them. We were never getting away with it.

Maybe I'm being naive but I'm not sure that Tonda would throw his own reputation and career away to protect Spors.

Interesting that Spors was not named. If the FA don't turn up anything regarding his involvement I'd be happy for him to stay given his relative success with signings. (Will Still asside)

Would never work, the minute performances even remotely slipped everyone would be calling for his head.

I'd throw a bag at Ange. Didn't light the world on fire at Spurs (Who has) but did win a trophy. Blip at Forrest but otherwise tested and proven. Think he would bring the right level of stability and communication that we need. Not as boring as watching Dyche ball.

Tonda spent 2 years at Barnsley, I don't buy that he 'wasn't aware of the rule'. Regardless, the players aren't going to wan to play for him are they.

My dyslexic brain read you don't get to keep your wingers, which in the case of Scienza is probably true 😂

On the plus side no VAR next season 😂

If I were Dragan I'd be going scortched earth with the senior management team.

No it doesn't at all but it does make his position untenable sadly.

What's big Ange up to?

Reputationally for the club and in the dressing room he's fucked. That's the long and short of it.

Yeah I have to agree -4 isn't the end of the world in this league with the squad we have (Be it they stay or we sell and recoup) plus parachute payments. After all it's less than the equivilent of dropping points in a loss and a draw. But recruitment needs to be absolutely spot on and that's where I worry.

I think that’s why we need to do a full investigation and kick out anyone involved. The fact it was systemic means it would have been known about if not directly sanctioned by more than just Tonda and Salt. Heads need to roll.

Don't see how Tonda stays, nor do I wan't him to. Thanks for the memories and all that but ultimately his actions directly lead to everything that's happened. The players will be absolutely furious with him. The club need to do a full internal investigation and anyone with knowlege, be it Parsons, Spoors et al. need to go. It's not going to be easy but we need to completely rebuild to move on. No doubt many players will want out, if we receive good offers we should take them, recoup funds and re-invest. To think we can move forward otherwise is completely unrealistic.

I'd just like to go more than one season without the club having to build a new 'project'. We're going to need a complete clear out on the sporting side... again. How are we supposed to build anything with the level of stability the club has had since the arrival of SR. Bordering on Watford levels of nonsense.

I think it speaks volumes that we’ve not come out and sacked Tonda already. I get that we’re appealing but are we seriously saying that we as a club are happy for him to continue even if we win on appeal. it doesn’t give me a lot of hope moving forward. SR Need to go and we need to rebuild. As a club we are in tatters. i don’t care how long it takes or how tough it is. We’ve been at rock bottom before and we came back stronger. We need an ownership group and a manager we can get behind. It’s never felt right since SR came in. The fact is we’re a failed moneyball experiment and the experiment needs to end.

My heart…

That German company that Tonda hired was just to teach them all the shithousery techniques 😂

Hopefully a bit of the dark arts

You’re not going to play well in every match. The baggies are fighting for their lives at home. In another moment this would have been the perfect recipe for a Saints collapse but to Tonda’s credit he made good changes and we rescued a big point. As others have said, on to the next!

We needed to win we did win. 7 from 9 this week.

We look tired. Great save Peretz

Great defending by Archer…