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Yet they still have the power of veto. So any breakthrough in 'enforcing' equality as the gay community would want it is utterly worthless if they find a vicar wanting to dig their heels in. The whole thing is a waste of time for them!

You live by the sword old boy...... I feel it's appropriate to say three (count them) relegations? And yes, we may match that figure by may, and still be two leagues above.

Well, yes. Thank you mate. But it does seem an incredibly expensive faff for essentially semantics! Especially when the religions can still veto doing the ceremonies.

They already confirmed they only had 200. How many did we take to Wigan again?

And still they fail to make the link. Enjoy playing Forest Green (conference play-offs permitting... or maybe not... ;)) next season!

Wow Sam. Great smashing, right there.....

Dear Portsmouth. Our away attendance on Saturday was bigger then the overall attendance you had at a league game tonight. Much love....... x

The Gibraltar international! Wow!

Place your bets! I reckon their relegation will be confirmed on the 1st April at home to Preston North End. So appropriate.

I understand the point you are making, marriage as a concept is based on religious tradition, but it risks things going off-track into a critique of religion rather then the gay marriage debate. Besides, nearly all cultures have a variation/take on 'marriage' as a concept, not just Christianity and the other Abrahamic religions. So, again.... is there a legal or human rights reason or just a desire to shatter the paradigm of the word marriage purely meaning a union between opposing genders?

On that basis alone, it wouldn't make any sense. But there may be other ticket pricing models available (as Frank is suggesting) that could make it sensible..... assuming of course that there truly would be the take up for the tickets in the first place. It's a delicate argument. As I suggested earlier in the thread, expansion for me right now would not be sensible. Thinking in longer terms, ticket prices are being increasingly marginalised as a source of income for top flight clubs. It would be interesting to see what real difference a few extra thousand seats would make in the context of % turnover for the club.

Don't apologise... I appreciate I may be a little out of date in my preconceptions. But I am trying to see if this is an argument over human rights, or semantics over the definition of one word.

So, their merchandising arm has gone bust. Massive club with loyal fans, honest.

A good question. One I couldn't answer. At a guess though I would say it may be a calculated compromise between ultimate takings and bodies on seats. (For example, selling 100 tickets at 25 quid is more appealing then selling 125 tickets at 15 quid.) The club may consider the prices to be about right all round. Coupled with a large shrinking of the family stand this year compared to last I believe there is an attempt to maximise money coming in as a priority ahead of getting bums on seats.

Now, this is something for me. I have no objection in gay civil unions and parity in terms of legal rights and privileges. The very definition of a marriage to me though is purely a union between people of opposing genders. So, is there a legal benefit in having gay unions upgraded to 'marriage' level status?

Yes, I know. But by making them even cheaper would there be any possible benefit purely in terms of getting numbers in? The family end I sit in is usually pretty packed, the most heavily 'conceded' (if that's a good way of putting it) part of the stadium. The main areas that seem empty are on the edges of the Itchen/Chapel stands. A better concessional rate there may make them more attractive.

Are there any? Or is it just about people of religious faith who are gay wanting acceptance by their churches and a legal grounding for it?

#Devil Advocate Then surely by implementing the more extreme concessional model Frank is suggesting could facilitate easier filling of those areas by making them more attractive?

It was a bad day when she got spaced by Tory.....

All three! Always prefered Cally to the Cylon girls though. (More of a girl next door.)

How did they react to you after you did that?

Just hire Wembley instead. The FA are always desperate for events to help them pay it off.

Now, how do we update that cliché to reflect a 'but 32k is fine and about right' attitude?

58k, That would be madness, we wouldn't fill it, not a chance.

To Cov? He is a level or two above them. The wigan performance was superb, we need him.